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McLae		#1 Posted : 13 October 2004 07:07:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,575 Location: DeSoto (Dallas area), TX		i am planning the signals of my new layout, and I will have sections that are "DB", 'OBB', and 'SBB'. The DB signals (Viessmann) will do for OBB, but where can I find SBB light signals? The pictures I have seen show about 5+ (too many to count) lights on each mast, so I will also need information on how to do the wiring.
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Guus		#2 Posted : 13 October 2004 12:41:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi, I'm new to this forum,although I've been watching it for quite some time. Reading the forum discussions has rekindled my interest in Märklin and I'm planning to make a layout based on the Swiss example in the near future. But to the point now,this site might be the one you're looking for:http://www.microscale.ch Greetings Guus
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Tony		#3 Posted : 13 October 2004 12:56:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />Hi, I'm new to this forum,although I've been watching it for quite some time. Reading the forum discussions has rekindled my interest in Märklin .... Hi Guus Welcome to the forum - I must say I have also renewed my interest in Marklin, thanks to the forum!!
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xxup		#4 Posted : 13 October 2004 12:58:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,477 Location: Australia		Oh nice... Maybe I should drop the plan to convert the old 7188s to the new marklin signals?
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Taurus		#5 Posted : 13 October 2004 15:54:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 141 Location: Vestby,		There is also a company in Hungary who make Swiss signallight called Alphamodell, i don't think they have any internetsite, but if you search for it in the net, maybe you can find some shops who have it? Taurus
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digilox1		#6 Posted : 13 October 2004 16:30:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 719 Location: ,		McLae, LDT, Littfinski Datentechnik, http://www.ldt-infocente...english/home_frame_e.htm has SBB signal decoders for DCC/Motorola. To xxup (Adrian is correct?): SBB is running leftside so, the new Maerklin signals can hardly be used. Regards, Manfred
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rschaffr		#7 Posted : 13 October 2004 16:36:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		McLae: Had this site bookmarked for future use...haven't dealt with them yet (we haven't progressed to the SBB portion of our layout yet). http://www.roundhouse.ch...ider_HO_Lichtsignale.htm
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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rschaffr		#8 Posted : 13 October 2004 16:37:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,180 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		McLae: Also this one: http://www.roundhouse.ch...Scale_HO_SBB_Signale.htm
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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Taurus		#9 Posted : 13 October 2004 19:56:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 141 Location: Vestby,		Here you can see Alphamodell! http://www.railtronic.ch They are produced in Hungary, quality is good! Taurus
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john black		#10 Posted : 13 October 2004 20:57:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Guus, welcome to The Forum Best Regards John
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xxup		#11 Posted : 14 October 2004 00:16:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,477 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by digilox1 ...SBB is running leftside so, the new Maerklin signals can hardly be used... Thanks Manfred - I never knew that.. While I am confident that the new Marklin signals can be placed on the left side, they clearly look nothing like the SBB signals.. The prices of the Microscale signals etc seem very high compared to Marklin and Viessmann. The beautiful signal bridge is over A$400. The Finance Director will choke on that price.. It also seems strange to use a K84 to control the signal..
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Bart		#12 Posted : 14 October 2004 09:32:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 670		For Swiss and Austrian signal descriptions, see my favorite site: http://web.utanet.at/smiderkr/index.html It is a matter of taste whether you use k84 or other decoders, but you will need a couple of them for each SBB signal. The Littfinski dedicated signal decoders a very efficient and cheap when using complicated signals.
		*Bart
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McLae		#13 Posted : 14 October 2004 21:13:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,575 Location: DeSoto (Dallas area), TX		Thank you for all the replies. I have been trying to contact Miamitrains.com to get a Microscale price quote, but the e-mail is bounced back.[:(] (Microscale lists them as a dealer/agent) Anyone know how to contact them?
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Nuno		#14 Posted : 14 October 2004 21:42:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 235 Location: ,		Hi Adrian __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Manfred - I never knew that.. While I am confident that the new Marklin signals can be placed on the left side, they clearly look nothing like the SBB signals.. __________________________________________________________________ I have checked that carefully. The answer is that the new Maerklin signals CANNOT work on the left hand side [xx(][xx(]. That is why I have chosen Viessmann's (in Portugal trains run on the left too). Cheers, Nuno
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McLae		#15 Posted : 14 October 2004 23:09:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,575 Location: DeSoto (Dallas area), TX		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:It also seems strange to use a K84 to control the signal.. The Viessmann light signals are run with either K84 or k83 + relay. Only the 'hobby' (or M-7188) signals have built-in relays. The old Marklin light signals ran this way also (I think from the manual, never had one). Not so strange after all. Except for the signals with 7 leds for Haupt., plus 5 leds for the Vor....[:p]
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