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charles Sharpe		#1 Posted : 14 December 2009 20:40:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		For some reason not known to me just yet but I had just started to run the lok and smoke was coming out of the casing. The lok came out of my starter set with the BR50 if it is going to cost to much to repair it I will keep it for some spares and look for a new lok. Could you surggest a lok to go the the silver coaches that came with the set . I am not a purist so as long as it looks the part that will be alright with me Would a BR111 been used to pill the coaches. [:(][:(][:(]
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RayF		#2 Posted : 14 December 2009 21:04:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Br111 or Br141 would be good options.
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H0		#3 Posted : 14 December 2009 23:31:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Br111 or Br141 would be good options. Depends on your strictness: the coaches are era III, therefore an E 10 or E 41 would match, some steamers like BR 23 or maybe BR 50 would also do. BR 111 and BR 141 are era IV - the coaches were still in use, but the number scheme had changed (computer numbers). If you don't mind that, BR 111, BR 110, or BR 140 can also be used, BR 218 too.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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RayF		#4 Posted : 14 December 2009 23:48:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Thanks for that insight, Tom. Silverfish coaches look very much the same to me, whatever the era.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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john black		#5 Posted : 15 December 2009 01:45:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by charles Sharpe <br />smoke was coming out of the casing ... if it is going to cost to much to repair Hi Charles , my best guess is "only" a grilled decoder ... Shouldn't cost you a fortune and then the V160 is a very nice Diesel with great sounds [:p][^]
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Bigdaddynz		#6 Posted : 15 December 2009 04:18:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />my best guess is "only" a grilled decoder ... Shouldn't cost you a fortune and then the V160 is a very nice Diesel with great sounds [:p][^] Agreed!
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Darren W		#7 Posted : 15 December 2009 06:14:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 643 Location: Alberta		What is a "grilled decoder"? Darren
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Bigdaddynz		#8 Posted : 15 December 2009 07:06:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla <br />What is a "grilled decoder"? Fried! Toasted! Nuked! Charcoaled! BBQ'd!
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mvd71		#9 Posted : 15 December 2009 08:56:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		A little known secret of the electronics world is that all electronics in fact run on smoke. Should the wires containing the smoke become damaged, the smoke will escape thus rendering the circuit unservicable. Cheers.... Mike.
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Darren W		#10 Posted : 15 December 2009 17:10:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 643 Location: Alberta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla <br />What is a "grilled decoder"? Fried! Toasted! Nuked! Charcoaled! BBQ'd! That's what I thought but I wasn't sure if there was another nickname for certain decoders I had not heard of yet.
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charles Sharpe		#11 Posted : 17 December 2009 20:02:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		Hi. I got to have a look into the V160 today. My friend came around and we took it apart cleaned it all out and put it back and no different . If we left out the magnet and the armature the gears worked fine but as soon as we put the magnet and the armature back in it ceased up again. In the end we change the magnet and the armature and it know runs like a dream. There is no visible damage to the parts we replaced.
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H0		#12 Posted : 17 December 2009 20:56:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Hi, Charles, maybe there is dust from the brushes filling the gaps between the collector fields and causing a shortcut. Or a loose cable at the armature. The former problem can be cured with a toothpick. But normally locos keep running - they run slower and motor becomes hot, but normally they continue to run.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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john black		#13 Posted : 18 December 2009 23:29:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Fried! Toasted! Nuked! Charcoaled! BBQ'd!
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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kimballthurlow		#14 Posted : 18 December 2009 23:43:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,669 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Charles, what a great story. You must have some good friends, who have armatures and magnets on hand like that. regards Kimball
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