Hi Eric,

I can't help with all your questions, but I know that, after the end of TEE operations, the red/cream coaches were used together with the blue/cream coaches in "Intercity" (IC) trains. The 1st class section was made up of the ex TEE coaches, and the blue/cream coaches were used for the 2nd class accomodation.

All the other TEE named trains you mentioned would have had a typical consist, all 1st class, of which part would include the sets made by Marklin.

No doubt other members can give more information.

Ray

AFAIK most of the Tee trains had names, such as Helvetia and Rheinpfeil, and were used as complete trains between specific routes. For example, the Rheinpfeil was used between Dortmund and Munich, and later on, as one of the Intercity trains, between Hanover and Munich.

So you would probably not mix the trains up too much, if you were wanting to remain reasonably prototypical.

The 00776 set has not yet been released, this should happen later in the year. It consists of 2 different trains of 6 cars each. Some dealers look as if they will split the set up so you can just buy one of the trains, should you wish to do that.

The 42992 and 42993 and additional restaurant coaches allow for the recreation of the IC Suedwind. This would have been a typical IC during the period 1979-1987. Normally, this kind of train would have been pulled by a 110/112, 103, 111 or even 120.
The main difference between this type of train and the earlier "TEE" trains is that the IC trains also included 2nd class coaches.

The 42990 "Rheingold" and 42991 "Helvetia" sets were interesting. The Rheingold, even in it's shortest consist (Basel-Geneva-Basel) usually consisted of 4 coaches, 1 compartment coach, one observation coach with bar, one restaurant coach and one open seating coach. Maerklin never released a separate model of the missing Apum coach.

The Helvetia also consisted of a few coaches between Basel-Zuerich-Basel, as it was normally coupled to coaches from the TEE Arbalete for that run. Once again, unless you combined coaches from the two set or bought multiples of the same set, you could not complete the full train.

The "newer" models (1:93.5)
The "Rheinpfeil" coaches, either as a Set from Maerklin or as individual coaches from Trix, make a nice consist. If you went with the Trix coaches, you could use a 103 instead of the 112.
The Bavaria is probably the best consist to date, even though this consist ran for only a few months in 1971 before the bar coach was replaced by a SBB restaurant. The Bavaria (as modelled) was pulled by a diesel 210 and by a Re 4/4II in Switzerland.

This year's "Blauer Enzian" (Maerklin) and "Roland" (Trix) are probably the most complete TEE sets available to date. Some dealers are selling the set as a complete set, others have divided it into two sub sets corresponding to direction (ie north-south or west-east, etc). Check with your dealer for more info.

As Maerklin has decided to market the trains with destination signs applied, some modellers will find it "non-prototypical" to mix and match. It is also important not to mix the 1:100 and 1:93 coaches together.

The Trix "Roland" behind a DB 103, a Swiss Re 4/4II TEE or FS 646 would be the quientessential international TEE. You can find info on the Roland and other TEE trains here:
http://www.heinrich-hank...ahn/zugbildung/index.htm

Regards

Mike C

Mike, thank's for very good information !

And AFAIK, there was only ever one 210 diesel painted in the Tee colours!

It was a 218 that was painted in TEE colours.

The BR 218 in TEE colors was never used to pull TEE trains. The BR 210s and Br 218s used to pull the Bavaria were the normal red DB, blue/beige and modern red versions.

Is the 218 217 the same one as the 753 testlok that I have seen in photos or are these two separate loks?

Regards

Mike C

Does anyone know why the class 753 have been painted in TEE colours?

...or indeed why 218 217 was so painted, if it never pulled a TEE train?

218 217-8 1974 = red-beige,
Die 218 217-8 bespannte am 20.06.1999 den EC 166 "Albert Einstein" nach Zürich ab Furh im Wald!
There has been a discussion over this loco whether or not it was ever used for TEE trains. the above german text, assumes it did on the other hand in 1999 all TEE trains had been desolved.
I've just watched a video regarding this train EC 166 Albert Einstein. It had a red BR 218 with SBB carriages.


What I've gathered, there are no TEE trains or videos available for this loco.
My conclusion is: it was a experimental colour that lasted until 2002.




this picture shows a excursion or special train and not a standard service train

218 218-6 1074 = ocean blue beige (first loco to be repainted)

The EC Albert Einstein was composed of SBB EC Coaches with a CD Dining Coach and operated between Zuerich and Prague via Lindau, Munich and Fuerth im Wald. Tractive Power was handled by Re 4/4II in Switzerland (Lindau-Zuerich-Lindau) and by either BR218 (single or MU) or BR232 in Germany. Lok changes were required at Munich HB, Schwandorf and at Fuerth (border) where CD locomotives took over.
In the early 2000s, the train schedule was modified so that the train replaced a IR between Fuerth and Munich and continued on to Zuerich after an hours' wait under a different train number.
Today, this train no longer exists as a direct connection.

Regards

Mike C

Any statement that THIS loco never pulled any TEE is simply wrong. The proof can even be seen here (both locos pulling their respective TEE Bavaria):