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Macfire		#1 Posted : 23 May 2008 19:41:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Hi Team. I have some wagons that I cannot get a product number for even after researching Helmut Kern's web site at: http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/index.html They are: El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 381-9 Weathered c/w coal load. El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 382-7 Weathered c/w coal load. These are the equivalent to the 4431 wagons but being factory weathered I assume they have a different M* number. And: E040. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 01 80 507 6 242-8. Raised superstructure. Weathered c/w coal load. I have this listed as a 4465 but cannot find a reference regarding the superstructure & factory weathering. Can anyone help? Cheers Tony
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MärCo		#2 Posted : 23 May 2008 20:09:52(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#3 Posted : 23 May 2008 20:52:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />Hi Team. I have some wagons that I cannot get a product num,ber foreven after researching Helmut Kern's web site at: http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/index.html They are: El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 381-9 Weathered c/w coal load. El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 382-7 Weathered c/w coal load. These are the equivalent to the 4431 wagons but being factory weathered I assume they have a different M* number. The two are from most starter set 29145,29530,29531,29146,29175,29176,2950,2960,2905,2907,2915, and 2916. I think it is not from factory weathered. The someone or owner of wagons add making the coal load and weathered.
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Macfire		#4 Posted : 24 May 2008 15:52:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Marco - I'll get some pics this week. Steven - Thanks for the information. All three are weathered very nicely indeed. Pics as soon as I can. Cheers Tony
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Macfire		#5 Posted : 10 June 2008 05:07:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Hi Team, I have uploaded pics into the 'Weathering' section at: https://www.marklin-user...ult.aspx?g=posts&t=10142 Enjoy. Tony
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kbvrod		#6 Posted : 10 June 2008 05:34:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, Bingo Steve,these are 'owner' weathers,and I can tell because it is a bad job of an India Ink wash weathering,Egad! M form my understanding does an airbrush weathering on their models(egad again!) those are all epoch 4,btw,.... Dr Dirt Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />Hi Team. I have some wagons that I cannot get a product num,ber foreven after researching Helmut Kern's web site at: http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/index.html They are: El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 381-9 Weathered c/w coal load. El-u 061. Gondola / Guterwagen offen 20 80 510 2 382-7 Weathered c/w coal load. These are the equivalent to the 4431 wagons but being factory weathered I assume they have a different M* number. The two are from most starter set 29145,29530,29531,29146,29175,29176,2950,2960,2905,2907,2915, and 2916. I think it is not from factory weathered. The someone or owner of wagons add making the coal load and weathered. [xx(][xx(]


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