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heinrichhess		#1 Posted : 21 September 2023 13:23:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2023(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: Wales, powys		got 3 loco's in fleet I like there driving characteristics and look grate the reason for upgrade is i want to turn on and of light's and smoke this is the only reason for up grade any recommendations welcome using MS2 and analogue power cutting semaphores hess


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marklinist5999		#2 Posted : 21 September 2023 15:13:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,162 Location: Michigan, Troy		It depends on if you want sound. Newest ones are mfx.Otherewise, you'd be shopping for reliable used or new old stock fx. Old 6090, and 6091,91c have 4 functions.


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heinrichhess		#3 Posted : 21 September 2023 15:59:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2023(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: Wales, powys		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 It depends on if you want sound. Newest ones are mfx.Otherewise, you'd be shopping for reliable used or new old stock fx. Old 6090, and 6091,91c have 4 functions. not after sound and MFX will not go into the slot on the controller they add them self's automatically on the next free slot is MFX the only new option? hess


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tonyfh		#4 Posted : 21 September 2023 18:25:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 116 Location: Netherlands		Hess, As far as I can see on your foto's these decoders are early Delta ones with 4 dipswitches only. These decoders show only lightning when the loc is running like in the old analog days. In case you want the lights always on and don't want sound you can convert these locos with the Märklin decoder 60906, this is a modern decoder without sound suitable for old style fieldcoil motors, see also this topic. These decoders aren not the cheapest but more or less the most simple conversion. Succes, Tony.

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heinrichhess		#5 Posted : 21 September 2023 20:16:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2023(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: Wales, powys		Originally Posted by: tonyfh Hess, As far as I can see on your foto's these decoders are early Delta ones with 4 dipswitches only. These decoders show only lightning when the loc is running like in the old analog days. In case you want the lights always on and don't want sound you can convert these locos with the Märklin decoder 60906, this is a modern decoder without sound suitable for old style fieldcoil motors, see also this topic. These decoders aren not the cheapest but more or less the most simple conversion. Succes, Tony. yes old delta that is grate news will look out for 3 of them will they also control smoke unit?


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mvd71		#6 Posted : 22 September 2023 09:08:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,755 Location: Auckland,		Hi Hess, From what you have said it seems the marklin 60906 decoder would be the best option for you. This will allow you to change the decoder only and re-wire the lights and smoke, then you will get exactly what you want. Cheers…. Mike

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BenP		#7 Posted : 22 September 2023 15:57:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 344 Location: Michigan, Ann Arbor		I have used a 60906 decoder in several conversions where I did not (or could not) change the original motor (like vintage steamers, 3015 croc), with great success. Even low speed driving is pretty good with old motors, though not the same as 5-pole replacement. Ben
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cintrans		#8 Posted : 23 September 2023 02:00:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/07/2018(UTC) Posts: 173 Location: Aruba (general), Oranjestad		Hess The C80/6080 decoder (old 8 dip-switch delta decoder) has one function (F0) that can be wired up for lights, telex or smoke... Regards Jean-Pierre


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