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Offline kimballthurlow  
#451 Posted : 27 March 2016 10:34:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
The Marne–Rhine Canal (French: Canal de la Marne au Rhin) near Arzviller in north eastern France:

Why should only trains disappear in a tunnel, why not ships? Why should a train tunnel not parallel a ship tunnel? Why should both tunnels not share a common portal? Too fantastic?

arzviller06.jpg

http://www.reise.hochwal...nalbeiArzviller2007.html


Yes Ak brilliant example.

Back in 1959, it was even more interesting, for a couple of reasons.
Marklin make a beautiful model of the BB12000 which shows on the left.
And the canal was still used by working boats and boatmen, ....... and their wives!!

I remembered the location from one of my French magazines, Rail Passion, August 2006.
And I give due acknoowledgement to Y Broncard who had the foresight to take the picture.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#452 Posted : 27 March 2016 17:39:11(UTC)
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In case somebody wants to travel back in time: Rails under channel bridge near Agen in France.
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#453 Posted : 27 March 2016 18:43:37(UTC)
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Castle to the right. The railway goes in a tunnel under the castle, and there is a station on the other side of the castle mountain. But you are not allowed to walk through the tunnel so you have to climb all the way up and down the castle mountain to get to the station.


What could be better for modeling than a train tunnel under a castle? This must make up at least 25% of the layouts in the 0700 track planning book alone :)

-Brandon
Exactly. Give me a castle, and I give you a tunnel:

Borghetto Santo Spirito, Italy.
BORGHETTO SANTO SPIRITO CASTELLO E SPIAGGIA .jpgBORGHETTOOSANTOSPIRITO-SAVONA-TRENOLOCOMOTIVAELETTRICAE431015-FGNVGA50001.jpg

Ambialet, France
Ambialet.jpg

Luetzelb(o)urg, France
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Near Basel, Switzerland
der-regio-s3-olten-basel-sbb-laufen-400024.jpg

Altenahr, Germany
Altenahr-Burg-Are-und-die-3-Tunnel-ca-1950.jpg
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Offline BrandonVA  
#454 Posted : 28 March 2016 20:09:59(UTC)
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Altenahr, Germany
Altenahr-Burg-Are-und-die-3-Tunnel-ca-1950.jpg


This one is especially nice, as you get two tunnels for three tracks, and a automotive tunnel as a bonus. Not only that, but the tunnels are relatively short, and the rails re-join(ed) on the other side of the hill. I am not 100% sure, but it also looks like the tracks pass a (old) station not too far before the tunnels. I think at this point we should stop researching prototype, make things up, and then the prototypes will miraculously appear.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#455 Posted : 29 March 2016 18:00:22(UTC)
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Altenahr, Germany
Altenahr-Burg-Are-und-die-3-Tunnel-ca-1950.jpg


This one is especially nice, as you get two tunnels for three tracks, and a automotive tunnel as a bonus. Not only that, but the tunnels are relatively short, and the rails re-join(ed) on the other side of the hill. I am not 100% sure, but it also looks like the tracks pass a (old) station not too far before the tunnels. I think at this point we should stop researching prototype, make things up, and then the prototypes will miraculously appear.

-Brandon


Google Maps doesn't show the tracks as joining on the other side of the tunnels.
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#456 Posted : 29 March 2016 19:53:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

Google Maps doesn't show the tracks as joining on the other side of the tunnels.


Alan,

It looks to me like the topmost track/tunnel is abandoned today. The map view does not include it, but the aerial/satellite view shows it. It appears to have run parallel or possibly joined with a switch. I have highlighted the route to hopefully help illustrate.

Another bonus, the road crossed under the tracks on one side of the tunnel, loops around, and crosses back under the tracks on the other side. MMR prototype heaven!

Altenahr.JPG

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#457 Posted : 29 March 2016 21:22:32(UTC)
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Initially, the line was single-tracked. Then a second track was added, necessitating a second bore. Finally, the second track was abandoned again (the vacated tunnel became a bicycle path in 1999).

More (German) info: http://www.ahrtalbahn.de/index-ahr.htm
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#458 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:09:48(UTC)
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Two track plans.
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#459 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:11:35(UTC)
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Two photos.
 28.09.1996 uberquert 62 015 .jpg215-043-1-mit-rb-22536-383082.jpg

Four postcards.
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#460 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:40:16(UTC)
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Diesel grouping.
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Hagen- Eckesel, 1996.
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#461 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:02:05(UTC)
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Your friends complain that your DIY tunnel portal looks hilarious? Share this photo with them:
unterfuehrung_2a.jpg
Halver, Germany.
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#462 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:34:35(UTC)
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Not prototypical to run steam, diesel and electric locomotives all out of the same station?

Saarbrucken, Germany. 1970.

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=416274&nseq=424

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#463 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:36:31(UTC)
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Or perhaps big express diesels would seem out of place with small steam locomotives?

Konstanz, Germany, 1965.

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=515024&nseq=198

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#464 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:38:05(UTC)
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A bridge over water at the entrance to a station?

Eller, Germany, 1964

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=460917&nseq=377

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#465 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:40:43(UTC)
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What about those romantic styled tunnel portals with turrets and fancy decor? They are fantasy. So much you pretend to run double headed DR express engines through them:

Henebach Tunnel, Bebra Germany 1969:

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=478715&nseq=336

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#466 Posted : 02 April 2016 10:05:11(UTC)
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Condensed prototypes to match our MRR set-ups:

Inland port of Hildesheim, 1956.
HF1952Hi.png

Fishing port of Rostock on the Baltic Sea, 1967.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#467 Posted : 02 April 2016 10:10:47(UTC)
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Hannover inland port "Lindener Hafen" offering contemporary container and piggy back services suited for our needs.

hli1.pnghli3.pnghli4.pnghli2.png
http://www.moba-trickkis...&total=3&start=1
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#468 Posted : 02 April 2016 10:15:41(UTC)
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Hannover wholesale market spurs (not in use anymore).
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http://www.moba-trickkis...mp;total=172&start=9
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#469 Posted : 02 April 2016 13:45:38(UTC)
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One of my favorite threads. Keep up the great work folks.
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#470 Posted : 02 April 2016 14:15:33(UTC)
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One of my favorite threads. Keep up the great work folks.


Agreed. This is a great thread with fun info.
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But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
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With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#471 Posted : 02 April 2016 19:11:37(UTC)
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Container terminal Hannover-Linden has the right size.
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http://www.moba-trickkis...&total=3&start=0
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#472 Posted : 03 April 2016 01:05:45(UTC)
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MRR oval track plan? No, Wuppertal-Ronsdorf.
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#473 Posted : 03 April 2016 16:56:56(UTC)
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Two Y points in a row on the right hand side ... ThumpUp

Who was that at the back that said you don't get S curves in the prototype ...

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#474 Posted : 26 April 2016 23:48:02(UTC)
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Anybody planning for a 4x8 double oval layout in H0 scale?
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Bakken Oil Express Llc, Dickinson, ND, USA
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#475 Posted : 27 April 2016 21:23:06(UTC)
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Penny Newman Grain, Fresno, CA, USA
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#476 Posted : 28 April 2016 10:50:56(UTC)
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More castles and trains.
Aartalbahn (Wiesbaden - Bad Schwalbach), 1986:

Hohenstein castle above Hohenstein station
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Aardeck castle
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#477 Posted : 28 April 2016 12:04:05(UTC)
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Nice castles Ak!

Thanks!

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#478 Posted : 28 April 2016 12:28:31(UTC)
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Still Aardeck castle.

Class 515 in 1981
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http://www.eisenbahnfoto.../dbtw/galerie515/515.htm

Class 211 hauled freight in 1985.
1985.02.18-09-16eione.jpg

And yes, dear friends of stereoptypes, there is a tunnel under the Hohenstein castle hill. Class 211 hauled freight train in 1986.
1986.06.10-09-03u0otf.jpg
http://www.drehscheibe-o...oren/read.php?17,1285994
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#479 Posted : 30 April 2016 06:20:39(UTC)
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How about two short tunnels under low hills right past a station in Celle Ligure, Liguria, Italy?

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Source:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/our_railway_official/26648166301/in/pool-nikon50afs/

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#480 Posted : 30 April 2016 06:36:22(UTC)
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How about some crazy turnout action in a light rail yard in Los Angeles, California?

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/7664438@N06/6113639705/

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#481 Posted : 30 April 2016 15:12:42(UTC)
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How about two short tunnels under low hills right past a station in Celle Ligure, Liguria, Italy?
Not to forget absence of turnouts: Just let them roll.
:o)

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#482 Posted : 30 April 2016 15:21:12(UTC)
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Talking about crazy action...
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#483 Posted : 30 April 2016 19:00:46(UTC)
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USD crude oil terminal, Casper, WY, USA
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http://usdg.com/terminal/casper/

GAPCO, Conakry, Guinea: design of a port facility for handling up to four 94 car trains per day.
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http://www.wiserrail.com...Gapco-Port-Facility.html

Chieftain Sand, Chetek, WI, USA
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http://www.railroadspecialties.com/projects.html

J.R. Simplot Livestock Group, Mountain Home, ID, USA
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"A loop track design was chosen to optimize the functionality of the track and add flexibility for future expansion while minimizing the length of track to be constructed which thereby reduced the cost of construction. In comparison to a straight siding track, a loop track does not require separate track for loaded and unloaded cars as the train continues around the loop as it unloads. This utilization of the same track for loads and unloads reduced the trackage required for a unit train by 5-6,000 ft. Therefore, this reduces the cost of construction significantly."
http://www.wiserrail.com...-Simplot-Grain-Loop.html

The above reasoning makes such a design also for a model railroad interesting.
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#484 Posted : 01 May 2016 13:49:45(UTC)
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Two separate railroads crossing each other via a 90 degree diamond in Europe?
schluffpendelfahrten-moers-hier-an-kreuzung-307463.jpg
Moerser Kreisbahn crossing the RAG line.
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#485 Posted : 01 May 2016 14:21:49(UTC)
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Whimsical diorama?
W007.jpg
No, Wilhelmshaven port railway...
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#486 Posted : 02 May 2016 20:45:56(UTC)
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Moerser Kreisbahn crossing the RAG line.


Bonus; a strange railbus/boxcar(?)/trailer configuration.

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#487 Posted : 02 May 2016 23:37:23(UTC)
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The ultimative out-and-back pattern prototype for the dedicated model railroader: From 1911 until 1975 existed a curious standard gauge branch line in the Westprignitz region (today the federal land of Brandenburg): Regular passenger trains went on a circular route from Perleberg to - surprise, surprise - Perleberg (see map). At Perleberg there was a connection to the Hamburg-Berlin long distance line.
Karte-Start[1].jpg186-004-8-Pirow-09.08.1975[1].jpg102-178-1-Perleberg-Sued-09.[1].jpg91-1929-Perleberg-09.1968-[1].jpg
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#488 Posted : 03 May 2016 12:57:58(UTC)
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And now for the other extreme:

Wanting to watch your ICE circling on an oval? Without calling at a station? Not prototypical?

I got good news for you: Yes, it is ! Check out high-speed trains on oval test circuits:

Test and validation centre, Wegberg-Wildenrath, Germany
Wildenrath_test_track.jpgDB-Baureihe_407.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org...ntre,_Wegberg-Wildenrath

Railway test circuit, Velim, Czech Republic
Velim_test_track.pngAGV_in_Velim_2009.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org...lim_railway_test_circuit

High speed train testing track, Antequera, Spain (abandoned project)
antequerarailtrack.jpg2016-05-03_11-59-30.jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org...enbahntestring_Antequera
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#489 Posted : 07 May 2016 22:39:52(UTC)
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Rail services to the "fragmented" port terminals of the Lübecker Hafen-Gesellschaft mbH on the Baltic Sea offer good modeling opportunities.
hlt0.pngSchlutuphlt7.png
hlt4.pngKonstinkai.png
hlt2.pnghlt1.pnghlt3.pnghlt5.png
http://www.lhg.com/index.php?id=4

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#490 Posted : 07 May 2016 23:04:24(UTC)
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Strip mining railway near Niederaussem.
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#491 Posted : 08 May 2016 10:06:11(UTC)
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To the West of Florence central station, Italy.
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#492 Posted : 09 May 2016 10:42:20(UTC)
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Further to post 348 by Tom / H0
(https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/m486947-Prototypical-Examples-for-Your-layout---or-is-it-layout-examples-in-the-prototype#post486947):

Near Cologne central station.
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#493 Posted : 09 May 2016 22:22:55(UTC)
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A station integrated in a reversing loop:
Calais, French Eurotunnel entrance.
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#494 Posted : 10 May 2016 22:51:00(UTC)
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A station integrated in a reversing loop:
Calais, French Eurotunnel entrance.


Travelled this loop many times, far more times thna I can remember ... ThumpUp ThumpUp

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#495 Posted : 25 May 2016 23:37:46(UTC)
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Olef, 1989.
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#496 Posted : 26 May 2016 12:43:32(UTC)
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Actually, the naked turntable discussion belonged here...:

https://www.marklin-user...d-Roundhouses#post518757

See posts #3, 4, 9, 10 & 11.

Edited by user 29 May 2016 00:13:08(UTC)  | Reason: Quoted thread was growing.

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#497 Posted : 26 May 2016 12:45:35(UTC)
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Once again Olef (2006).
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#498 Posted : 29 May 2016 20:22:36(UTC)
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Actually, the naked turntable discussion belonged here...:

https://www.marklin-user...d-Roundhouses#post518757

See posts #3, 4, 9, 10 & 11.
Model railroader´s delight: Further to the quoted thread (where this turntable was presented) which is rather about steam locos, I post this treasure here. Turntable without roundhouse in a priceless setting in / under / next to a steep cliff.
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Vevey, Switzerland.
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#499 Posted : 30 May 2016 16:35:44(UTC)
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Damaged catenary posts? Just pretend it is prototypical...
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(Nuremburg)
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#500 Posted : 03 July 2016 23:59:25(UTC)
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Mance Curve, Pennsylvania, USA
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