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Offline Motley  
#1 Posted : 01 August 2014 07:44:57(UTC)
Motley

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Hello, I'm new to Marklin never owned any of their locomotives before. I want to buy this loco here:

Manufacturer: Marklin
Item: 39017
Gauge: HO
With MFX digital sound decoder.
Express Locomotive BR 01 150 DB MHI Wooden Box

I have an NCE Power House Pro 5amp DCC system.

Is this MFX digital decoder compatible with my system? Will all the funcions work?

I want to make sure before I buy this.

Thanks for all the help.....
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 01 August 2014 08:22:57(UTC)
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Hi!
Welcome to the forum!
Originally Posted by: Motley Go to Quoted Post
I have an NCE Power House Pro 5amp DCC system.
The Märklin 39017 understands the protocols MM and mfx, but not NMRA DCC.
Does your controller support the MM protocol? Probably not.

Märklin 39017 is a three-rail loco.

Trix 22250 is the same model, but as a two-rail version and with NMRA DCC decoder.


Märklin are able to put mfx, MM, and DCC into a single decoder. They use this with 1 gauge models and decoder upgrade sets only, but not with H0 gauge models.

If you have two-rail track, the Trix loco should work nicely.
Regards
Tom
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Offline sjlauritsen  
#3 Posted : 01 August 2014 08:36:28(UTC)
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As Tom states the #39017 is a three rail locomotive. The Trix version #22250 is a two-rail version with a DCC decoder.

I have a review of the model on my blog: http://www.bahnfan.net/p...Steamer-01-150-From-Trix
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 01 August 2014 09:57:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Motley Go to Quoted Post
Hello, I'm new to Marklin never owned any of their locomotives before. I want to buy this loco here:

Manufacturer: Marklin
Item: 39017
Gauge: HO
With MFX digital sound decoder.
Express Locomotive BR 01 150 DB MHI Wooden Box

I have an NCE Power House Pro 5amp DCC system.

Is this MFX digital decoder compatible with my system? Will all the funcions work?

I want to make sure before I buy this.

Thanks for all the help.....


Yours digital system have only DCC protocol and don´t support mfx/MM protocol.
If you shall buy an Märklin train,i suggest you change digital system that supports mfx/MM.
If not less in cheaper way...change out Märklins mfx decoder to ESU multiprotocol sound decoder,which supports DCC protocol too.
Just in case to remember...you must have 3 rail tracks to use Märklin trains.

CS3...H0...
Offline Motley  
#5 Posted : 01 August 2014 15:53:32(UTC)
Motley

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Oh wow, I had no idea the Marklin locomotives were 3 rail, I assumed it was two rail because of the HO scale designation.

I have code 83 track. Will the Trix passenger cars with lights work on my track and system? Part # T23446

I will look into the Trix locomotive then.

I appreciate the help!
Offline Motley  
#6 Posted : 01 August 2014 16:17:35(UTC)
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Well shoot, they don't have the Trix 22250 in stock.

Will the Trix 22393 have a DCC decoder? They have that one in stock.
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 01 August 2014 18:39:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Motley Go to Quoted Post
Will the Trix 22393 have a DCC decoder?
Yes, it has.

Trix locos will have a DCC decoder (sometimes with support for either SX or mfx) or will be analogue with a NEM (or non-NEM) decoder socket (decoder can simply be plugged in).

Trix product database:
http://www.trixtrains.com/trix_pdbs.html

According to the German database, the 22393 has a motor with bell-shaped armature (from the good ol' days before they economised loco propulsion).
English text says "maintenance-free can motor".


The lights of the coaches 23446 should work with your rails (red rear lights of one coach - interior lights must be bought separately).
The set contains one coach in length scale 1:87 and five shortened coaches (1:93.5).
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline Motley  
#8 Posted : 01 August 2014 23:36:49(UTC)
Motley

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Thanks Tom, I appreciate all the help!

One more question. Couplers. Are the couplers that come with the locomotive and passenger cars good? Or is there a Kadee replacement for them?

I prefer using Kadee couplers on all my equipment.
Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 02 August 2014 08:17:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Motley Go to Quoted Post
Couplers. Are the couplers that come with the locomotive and passenger cars good?
The Märklin/Trix close couplers work fine with Trix items. No need to replace them if you buy a complete Trix train.
When buying Märklin coaches, ask the seller to swap the wheelsets (wheelsets are normally the only difference between Trix and Märklin coaches - sometimes they have different road numbers and you can buy both to get a longer train).

I have no experience with Kadee couplers. Locos and coaches have NEM pockets for couplers and other couplers can be used.

Märklin/Trix couplers often cause problems with scale models (Märklin and Trix do not have scale buffers to make room for the couplers).
See also:
http://blog.mailez.de/eblog/?p=65
Regards
Tom
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Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 02 August 2014 08:43:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Motley Go to Quoted Post
Thanks Tom, I appreciate all the help!

One more question. Couplers. Are the couplers that come with the locomotive and passenger cars good? Or is there a Kadee replacement for them?

I prefer using Kadee couplers on all my equipment.


Yes you can use Kadee couples on the Trix wagons and locomotivs.
But you must use Kadee couples for NEM pockets.
Kadee have 4 of them:short,medium,long and extra long.
I recommend you try with short and medium couples.
It fits good.

CS3...H0...
Offline DamonKelly  
#11 Posted : 02 August 2014 10:41:10(UTC)
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This bit's important:

Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
When buying Märklin coaches, ask the seller to swap the wheelsets (wheelsets are normally the only difference between Trix and Märklin coaches - sometimes they have different road numbers and you can buy both to get a longer train).


Märklin coaches (and locos) have wheelsets that are conductive between the two outside rails i.e. they will cause a short circuit if you use them on a 2-rail setup. Generally, 2-rail (i.e. insulated) wheelsets are available for all coaches.
Cheers,
Damon
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