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Offline Johnvr  
#1 Posted : 06 March 2011 16:01:44(UTC)
Johnvr

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It was such a wonderful day in Cape Town yesterday. Lovely hot weather, with cyclists out training for the cycle tour next week, people going to the beach, children swimming in the pool at home, and a game of rugby on at the Newlands Stadium in the evening.

Joe and Terry, two of my Marklin colleagues, came over and we set up a little layout outside, under the thatch roof shade around the pool area, to enjoy some trains.

Actually, I wanted to see in action a system that I shall be using for my next layout. A combination of Delta and Analog. I come from a long background in analog trains (about 40 years of Marklin) but I did purchase a Delta Starter Set (ICE2) and another Delta train and I converted my DB103 to Delta a few years ago. I wanted to see how well the system would work with Delta in the Catenary and Analog on the Ground Pickup, and then be able to flick a switch and have Analog in the Catenary and Delta in the Ground Pickup.

Using this system, I will be able to have two sets of 5 trains running. One set would be made up of 4 Delta locomotives running from Catenary and 1 (or more) running Analog from Ground Pickup, and then flick the switch to have 4 Delta locomotives from Ground Pickup and 1 (or more) running from Analog from Catenary. Of course, using signalling system, several Analog locomotives can be scheduled to keep the layout busy anyway.

Fortunately, the system described above worked exactly as expected. Joe and Terry and I enjoyed switching between the systems for Catenary and Ground Pickup and between the locomotives, and even though it was just a little layout, we could have great fun with the concept.

Of course, having Delta in the Catenary and another Delta in the Ground Pickup would allow 8 trains to be run simultaneously with individual train control, but that’s another story …

I have attached some pictures here so you can see the enjoyable day we had yesterday.

Terry and Joe getting to grips with the layout :

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You can see the old Analog Transformer and the Delta transformers side by side.
Note the Borsig, the DA800, the F800 and the Crocodile lurking in the box with the panto's showing :


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One other item which I wanted to check was how well the old Analog locomotives would run on the new C Track. They all seemed to cope absolutely well enough, except for 3014 the Class 01 097 and the F800 which seemed to struggle a bit on the C Track Curved Points. I was delighted that my DA800 and 3005 locomotives ran well on C Track, and even the 3039 Electric locomotive seemed to be fine, although without the traction tyre at the back, it sent the 3039 into a bumpy ride over the new C Track. The CM800 locomotive had no problems, neither did the 3003 locomotives, but my old 3080 Diesel Shunter was not too happy. I think the wheel flanges of the older locomotives are slightly wider than the newer locomotives, hence the bumpy ride as it goes over the sleepers.

Joe and Terry and I enjoyed the day, and next time it’s back to Joe to see how his wiring and scenery development has progressed on his home layout.

Regards,
John


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Offline DaleSchultz  
#2 Posted : 06 March 2011 17:45:32(UTC)
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ag man, braaivleis rugby sunny skies and Märklin....
Dale
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Offline Webmaster  
#3 Posted : 06 March 2011 18:38:45(UTC)
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Looks like you had really nice day.... ThumpUp
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Offline mmervine  
#4 Posted : 06 March 2011 20:49:37(UTC)
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Looks like a great time...hopefully, we can all meet in October! Did the decoders arrive yet?
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Offline Alfa V8  
#5 Posted : 06 March 2011 20:59:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
ag man, braaivleis rugby sunny skies and Märklin....


Cant get much better than that.BigGrin
Every day provides new opertunities. H0 mostly Marklin, still using my 6021, LGB in Gauge 1, live steam in larger gauges.
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Offline petestra  
#6 Posted : 06 March 2011 21:25:47(UTC)
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Hi John, looks like a-lot of fun! Friends and Maerklin, who needs anything else?
Cheers,PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#7 Posted : 07 March 2011 01:10:40(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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What a great post, what a great way to spend some time with friends, thanks for sharing John.

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Loadmaster  
#8 Posted : 07 March 2011 01:30:45(UTC)
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What a very interesting idea.
May I ask the dimensions of your table.
You used 24130 curves?
I haven't started construction yet, but have been collecting R2,3 & 4 curves
and high speed points.

Robert
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 07 March 2011 01:40:04(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Originally Posted by: Alfa V8 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
ag man, braaivleis rugby sunny skies and Märklin....


Cant get much better than that.BigGrin



Pity the Bulls got beaten..........Wink Wink ThumpUp Flapper OhMyGod
Offline nevw  
#10 Posted : 07 March 2011 02:04:02(UTC)
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Thanks for sharing. It looks to be a Majic day.



NN
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline Tony  
#11 Posted : 07 March 2011 08:01:31(UTC)
Tony

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Good times, John, Good times...
Regards Tony
Offline Johnvr  
#12 Posted : 08 March 2011 08:04:09(UTC)
Johnvr

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Robert (Loadmaster) :

Thanks for your interest.
The dimensions of the table are 2.4m x 1m.
I used R1 curves mostly, except for a couple of R2 curves on the outside circuit. The table was just not wide enough for a parallel circuit, so I had to do some creative thinking to optimise the available space. Actually I quite liked the 'shape' of the circuit for the train, the curves left and right made it interesting rather than just 'round and round' ! Cool

Regards,
John
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Offline Johnvr  
#13 Posted : 08 March 2011 08:08:04(UTC)
Johnvr

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Dale,

What is the American equivalent of "ag man, braaivleis rugby sunny skies and Märklin...." ?
I suppose "oh man, hollywood , football, sex in the city and Sante Fe" or something like that ?
Don't you miss your alma patria ?

Regards,
John
Offline Johnvr  
#14 Posted : 08 March 2011 08:13:41(UTC)
Johnvr

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Bigdaddynz :

You would be surprised to know the extent of support for New Zealand rugby teams when they come and play in South Africa !! Particularly in the Western Cape and Cape Town area. It's massive. I think because NZ play a very dynamic brand of rugby, in contrast to our SA counterparts. Did you see the Stormers match against the Cheethas on Saturday ? Deadly boring - not a try scored in 80 mins, only penalties. Snooze.Bored Bored

Regards,
John
Offline Ian555  
#15 Posted : 08 March 2011 08:19:13(UTC)
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Hi John,

Great way to spend a day. ThumpUp

We could do with a little bit of your sunshine. Smile

Ian.
Offline marklinsa  
#16 Posted : 08 March 2011 12:04:40(UTC)
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Middag Robert & others

Would like to meet you guys during conventon in April - please send me a PM to make some arrangements. We will be staying in the Strand.

Convention website : http://www.samodelrailwa...n/cape_town_default.html



Herman Steyn
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Offline Johnvr  
#17 Posted : 08 March 2011 16:07:13(UTC)
Johnvr

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Mark,

Thank you so much - Delta Decoders received all in good order.

I took some time last night to figure out how to install a Delta Decoder into one of my old locos. I chose to install it into my 3937 DB Electric Locomotive, which I purchased in a DIY kit form in January 1970 at Frankfurt Airport. The process took me a couple of hours, but I am very pleased with the result. Now I have one of my favourite locomotives to control around the track.

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And here is a picture from my old Marklin Magazine of the kit of the 3937 locomotive which I purchased :

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Regards,BigGrin BigGrin
John
Offline mmervine  
#18 Posted : 08 March 2011 19:48:08(UTC)
mmervine

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John-glad that they arrived safe and sound. Even happier that someone could make good use of these!BigGrin
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#19 Posted : 09 March 2011 03:16:33(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Dale,

What is the American equivalent of "ag man, braaivleis rugby sunny skies and Märklin...." ?
I suppose "oh man, hollywood , football, sex in the city and Sante Fe" or something like that ?


Well I don't think there is an equivalent.... but your suggestion is probably not too far off...
Perhaps: "yea! burgers, football, Bud, and a V8" but only those from SA know where the expression is from....

Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post

Don't you miss your alma patria ?


Oh! sometimes... miss the climate the wildlife and general attitude and competence that used to prevail... but I certainly don't miss the new levels of crime and corruption... and sadly most people are completely blind to the massive extent of corporate corruption in the USA... life is still too easy here for people to care - massive natural resources compensate.
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline ac jacko  
#20 Posted : 09 March 2011 08:49:48(UTC)
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A great post indeed
Offline intruder  
#21 Posted : 09 March 2011 20:10:59(UTC)
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Thanks for the nice report, John.
I wish I were there.

In my opinion it's always sunny in Capetown BigGrin
Maybe because I look at this photo from time to time

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This was shot from Signal Hill some years ago.
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Johnvr  
#22 Posted : 10 March 2011 15:56:11(UTC)
Johnvr

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Svein,

Thanks for a superb picture !
I hope you enjoyed your visit to our lovely city.

Regards,Smile
John
Offline Joseph Meiring  
#23 Posted : 10 March 2011 18:29:15(UTC)
Joseph Meiring

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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Robert (Loadmaster) :

Thanks for your interest.
The dimensions of the table are 2.4m x 1m.
I used R1 curves mostly, except for a couple of R2 curves on the outside circuit. The table was just not wide enough for a parallel circuit, so I had to do some creative thinking to optimise the available space. Actually I quite liked the 'shape' of the circuit for the train, the curves left and right made it interesting rather than just 'round and round' ! Cool

Regards,
John

Thanks John for an amazing day! Of course you know its all your fault that I'm having to go digital now!!...You have more than whet my appetite....as they say, if u can't beat them, join them....
Joe
Offline aclassifier  
#24 Posted : 04 January 2014 14:53:20(UTC)
aclassifier

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Now, these days (from when I don't know) many of the new non-Märklin electric locos will not have the pantographs connected on the inside. For those locos the catenary would be for the looks only. This probably implies that it's most suitable to have the AC on the catenary.

I have a small blog about this: http://www.teigfam.net/oyvind/home/models/079-connecting-catenary-wires/

Øyvind Teig
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