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Offline Ian555  
#1 Posted : 07 November 2009 12:34:21(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi all,
Time to upgrade my electric soldering iron.
What would you recommend for general use.
Needs to be 220/240 volts. (uk voltage).
Thanks again.
Ian.
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 07 November 2009 12:47:02(UTC)
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I use Antex soldering iron on track and decoder wiring, Etc.

There is Gaugemaster website with lots in stock.

http://www.gaugemaster.c...amp;mid=822&style=#0
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 07 November 2009 12:51:57(UTC)
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I'd recommend a temperature controlled iron with at least 3 or 4 bits of differing sizes.

Marklin (70910) and Viessmann produce a good one. I use an iron from local electronics retailer Dick Smith Electronics - they haven't got the one I have listed any more, but it is better than this one - http://www.dse.co.nz/dse...b06bd/Product/View/T1976

Mine has a LED display showing temperature.

Something around 40 watts should be good.

Here's an ebay auction for one of the Marklin irons.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...hnen?hash=item3ef9022a4b

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Offline davemr  
#4 Posted : 07 November 2009 12:54:07(UTC)
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Hi Ian. Marklin do one which is very good. Expensive of course and you can buy at half the price at a local diy store.
Marklin gives you three temperatures which you can set using a switch and a screen which shows the temperature. Comes complte with stand etc. and the name Marklin.

dave
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Offline pa-pauls  
#5 Posted : 07 November 2009 13:23:34(UTC)
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Hi Ian Smile

Yes I would also recomend the Märklin/Viessmann iron station which is temperature controlled.

I have had a Weller WS-80 iron station for many years now and never had a problem with it. It is also temperature controlled.
I have used it very much and I like it. Easy to change bits also which I think is a must when you do different type of soldering.
Pål Paulsen
Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 07 November 2009 13:45:00(UTC)
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Antex do have temperature controlled iron as well.

http://www.antex.co.uk/p...&numRecordPosition=1
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Offline Ian555  
#7 Posted : 07 November 2009 14:26:04(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi all,
Thanks for your help,I like the look of the Marklin station.
Had a look on a BW bahn website,good price of 65 euro's but I've never dealt with them.Has anyone?
Ian.
Offline Caplin  
#8 Posted : 07 November 2009 14:40:35(UTC)
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I bought a non-MMR related ERSA RDS 80 Station, including a RT 80 soldering iron and a RH 80 iron holder. Full range of tips available.
It has 3 buttons for fixed temp. settings (programmable, photo shows the factory settings) and +/- buttons for step up and down around the fixed temp.
I bought a 0842UDLF tip 0,4 mm for SMC soldering. With that tip I successfully soldered a 21 pin socket onto a Lokpilot decoder.

EDITED: The factory settings are 150, 300 and 400°C (not very clear to see on the photo).



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Offline rschaffr  
#9 Posted : 07 November 2009 15:44:12(UTC)
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I use a Weller W60 60 watt controlled temp iron. The advantage is that I don't need a station taking up room on my workbench. The temperature is controlled by installing different tips.
-Ron
Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051)
http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
Offline Piggy  
#10 Posted : 07 November 2009 16:15:29(UTC)
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I have an old Weller station as well, the good thing about Weller and other brand names is you always can get new tips and parts for them. The soldering stations Marklin and Viessman looks fine, the question is what is the avalability of tips? For them.
Regards
Kenneth
CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout
Offline Darren W  
#11 Posted : 07 November 2009 17:39:32(UTC)
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I use Weller as well. With any soldering iron just make sure you keep your tips clean and tinned.

I also bought one of the Cold Heat soldering units. It works by shorting the item to be soldered across a special tip. Works fine for joining 2 wires in a splice but not great for working on anything bigger or circuit boards. The one big advantage is that it stays cold until use and cools down immediately after so if you are splicing wires under a layout you don't have to juggle a hot soldering iron.

Darren
Offline intruder  
#12 Posted : 07 November 2009 21:07:19(UTC)
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I use Märklin 70910. I'm very satisfied with it.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Webmaster  
#13 Posted : 07 November 2009 21:20:53(UTC)
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 07 November 2009 23:35:07(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ian555
<br />Had a look on a BW bahn website,good price of 65 euro's but I've never dealt with them.Has anyone?


Hi Ian, I'm assuming you mean the ebay seller BWBahn? If so, then yes I have dealt with him. I found him very good to deal with, and would have no trouble with buying something else from him.

If you are interested in the Marklin soldering station, you may want to keep an eye out for the Viessmann one too, as they are the same unit. I think Viessmann make the units and Marklin sell them with their name on them.
Offline Ian555  
#15 Posted : 08 November 2009 08:54:27(UTC)
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Hi David,
Thanks for the information on that.
Ian.
Offline Ian555  
#16 Posted : 12 November 2009 21:03:32(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi all,
Have ordered Marklin soldering station 70910 from bwbahn.
Will let you know when it arrives.
Ian.
Offline old toot  
#17 Posted : 12 November 2009 21:55:50(UTC)
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the dse one w\has always been popular i worked for them for years and the T1976 has always sold well for NZ99.95 and had replacable tips and element the other one they ran you could set the temp and it cut in and out on that temp and computer techs who need very specific heat when working on motherboards found them great. The other ones we ran were weller but they were about 230.00 but very good quality. but you will enjoy the marklin one Ian its very good
well its show day here and the big farm show is on so its a long weekend and we are going down to the bach on the coast
where i can sit up on whats called "nosey point " and see 100 klm north and south and out to see and we get Canadian geese, a local bird the shag and a great river to look at with salmon and trout to catch have fun
bryan
were we pickit, packit and postit
Offline Ian555  
#18 Posted : 16 November 2009 14:10:08(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi all,
Soldering station arrived this morning.
Thanks for all your help and advice.
Ian.
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Offline davemr  
#19 Posted : 16 November 2009 15:56:01(UTC)
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Hi Ian. I am sure you will find it a worthwhile buy. I have had mine for 3/4 years and no problems.
Remember the sponge to clean the tip.

dave
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Offline charles Sharpe  
#20 Posted : 16 November 2009 20:33:15(UTC)
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I also have the Marklin 70910 soldering iron. I needed to replace my tip as my wife found out that she was able to cut thin wire fabric with it on a piece of plate glass. It cuts it and seals the cut ends. The company I used was RS components who are based in Corby in the UK. The whole unit is the same as the Marklin one.

Code no 186-719 Whole unit.
Code no 186-731 0.8 mm Tip
Code no 186-725 1.6 mm Tip
Code no 186-703 3.2 mm Tip
Code no 186-747 Replacement Iron.

I have just used my replacement tip and it is working well.
CHARLES SHARPE
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Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 16 November 2009 20:36:24(UTC)
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Very good, Ian.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Ian555  
#22 Posted : 16 November 2009 21:00:44(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Charles,
Thanks for that information.
Ian.
Offline DamonKelly  
#23 Posted : 17 November 2009 13:02:07(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by davemr
<br />Remember the sponge to clean the tip.

dave


Well, yes and no...

While you are working, cleaning the tip on a lightly dampened sponge is good (lift the sponge over your head and squeeze...no water should come out [}:)])

But...when you have finished, coat the tip in a good layer of solder and let it cool. Do not leave the tip "dry" for any length of time.
Cheers,
Damon
Offline DamonKelly  
#24 Posted : 17 November 2009 13:20:56(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by charles Sharpe
<br />The company I used was RS components who are based in Corby in the UK. The whole unit is the same as the Marklin one.

Code no 186-719 Whole unit.
Code no 186-731 0.8 mm Tip
Code no 186-725 1.6 mm Tip
Code no 186-703 3.2 mm Tip
Code no 186-747 Replacement Iron.


Thanks for that info, Charles.
The Australian site for RS Components doesn't accept those part numbers, but the .uk site does. I found some .au parts numbers:

Code no 665-4789 Whole unit.
Code no 665-4827 0.4 mm (?) Tip


I was aware that the Märklin Soldering Station was OEMed by someone else. Viessmann also sell it. Jaycar here in Oz used to, and I recall seeing an identical unit on a German "catalogue" electronics site.

Good to know the RS part numbers, though
Cheers,
Damon
Offline Marius in Africa  
#25 Posted : 18 November 2009 17:36:57(UTC)
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For the South African members who need a good product at local prices, go to www.magnumproducts.co.za

My model 2002 has been serving me with diligence and reliability Smile

Regards
Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#26 Posted : 18 November 2009 18:26:44(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DamonKelly
<br />Code no 665-4789 Whole unit.
Code no 665-4827 0.4 mm (?) Tip


Same part numbers on the RS Components NZ website

http://newzealand.rs-onl...p;N=4294856240&Nty=1


However, the price at $421 NZD for the soldering station is about double what I would pay to buy the Marklin version off ebay. Love the red colour though!
Offline Macfire  
#27 Posted : 18 November 2009 18:29:14(UTC)
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Re above posting
Posted - 2009 Nov 18 : 17:26:44

= 05:26 local time.

I'm at work on night shift - what is you excuse???
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#28 Posted : 18 November 2009 18:52:03(UTC)
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