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Macfire		#1 Posted : 12 September 2008 13:26:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Following on from ozzmans topic: "NZ railways deprivatized" https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=9937 Brief History: 1870 Public Works Department. The Public Works Act of 1870 specified a national standard (narrow gauge) of 3 feet 6 inches (1067 mm). 1880 - 1981: NZ Railways Department (NZR) or NZ Government Railways Department (NZGR). 1982 - 1990: NZ Railways Corporation. 1990 - 1995: NZ Rail Ltd. 1995 - 2003: Tranz Rail. 2003 - 2008: Toll Rail. 2008: KiwiRail. Current Local Passenger Service Operators: Wellington: Trans Metro Auckland: MAXX Here are some before and after images of locos as they are upgraded. Class Eo Electric (Toshiba) Originaly used between 1968 and 1997 on the Otira-Arthurs Pass section of the Midland line of the South Island, through the Otira Tunnel. (since replaced by diesels). Two (possibly a third) overhauled for use with Trans Metro suburban trains in Wellington. On the move to Hutt workshops following 10 years storage at Picton In front of a 1940's vintage English Electric D Class EMU trailer in Trans Metro colours photos: via Scott Osmond
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ozzman		#2 Posted : 12 September 2008 13:58:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Thanks for the photos Macca. Are they really going to keep the name Kiwirail?
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nevw		#3 Posted : 12 September 2008 14:42:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ozzman <br />Thanks for the photos Macca. Are they really going to keep the name Kiwirail? Yes , how else are you going to know that it is in NZ, (our eastern Provinces) and not OZ rail.
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frankie		#4 Posted : 12 September 2008 14:59:37(UTC) Retweet
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Macfire		#5 Posted : 12 September 2008 16:16:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ozzman <br />Thanks for the photos Macca. Are they really going to keep the name Kiwirail? I guess so Gary, unless there is a change of Government and they decide to change the name again [B)][:(] I would have thought NZ Rail would have been logical but then I am a tax-payer not a tax-spender... I'll ignore Nev's comment. Just going to steal his pinny instead.. The shame of using the EO in the first place is that once again the wheel has turned full circle. We used to have an 1800hp English Electric Class EW. Lovely quiet and smooth running articulated Bo-Bo-Bo locos that were used during peak hour for suburban trains. They were scrapped in the late '80's. Far superior locos to the 1200hp EO's.
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Bigdaddynz		#6 Posted : 12 September 2008 16:27:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Aunty Helen wanted the name to carry the same theme as KiwiSaver and KiwiBank! Well, as I said Macca, we could always replace the Toshies with E103's!
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Macfire		#7 Posted : 12 September 2008 16:35:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz Well, as I said Macca, we could always replace the Toshies with E103's! Bloody good point there Big D. E103's pulling ex Brit Rail Mk.II coaches. Now THAT is cosmopolitan
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ozzman		#8 Posted : 13 September 2008 12:02:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		So, does Kiwirail only operate mainline services, or do they operate suburban services too (in the same way that DB operates S-Bahns for numerous city transport authorities)?
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 13 September 2008 13:00:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Gary, Tranz Metro operates commuter services in Wellington, and MAXX in Auckland. In Wellington we are using a mix of Ganz Mavang EMU's which are now 25 years old, and General Electric EMU's which are anything between 50 - 70 years old (first placed in service in 1938). About 70 new EMU's have been ordered from Mitsui in Japan to replace the old English Electrics. Ganz Mavang Class EM EMU English Electric Class DM EMU English Electric in original red colours. New Mitsui EMU's due to arrive in 2011. (Bombadier and CAF were the other 2 who tendered, Mitsui won the contract). Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 19:59:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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mvd71		#10 Posted : 13 September 2008 13:37:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		With the new rolling stock for wellington, would it be possible for Uncle Helen to have the system changed so that it is compatible with the rest of the Main trunk line?[:o)]
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ozzman		#11 Posted : 13 September 2008 14:34:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Thanks for the photos BD. I can see that the Class DMs are two car sets. The Class EMs look like three or even four car sets.
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Bigdaddynz		#12 Posted : 13 September 2008 17:03:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ozzman <br />Thanks for the photos BD. I can see that the Class DMs are two car sets. The Class EMs look like three or even four car sets. The EM's are a 2 car set, one powered, one trailer. 44 of each were ordered. The Wellington commuter service runs on 1500v DC, The Main Trunk Line (the line from Wellington to Auckland) is electrified at 25000v AC. Not much difference to Europe there. AFAIK Europe has 4 different voltages, 1500v DC, 3000v DC, 15000v AC and 25000v AC. You can read about the North Island Main Trunk Line here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/...sland_Main_Trunk_Railway
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steventrain		#13 Posted : 13 September 2008 20:14:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Excellent, Thanks for the pictures, Macca.
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 14 September 2008 07:44:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Here's a piccie of how the English Electrics originally looked, this one has been restored. The were fondly called 'The Cyclops' because of the large single headlight! [Edit 15/09/2008] This train is in everyday use, I saw it running on the Hutt Valley line today. This picture was taken on one of the platforms at Wellington Station. Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 19:59:22(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Macfire		#15 Posted : 14 September 2008 14:42:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		The diver sat in a small cubicle on the right hand side in the direction of travel, the windscreen wiper gives the position away. The other window has had thousands of kids faces (including mine every chance I could get) peering out, in my case loving every set of points we went over. Something "modern" engineers have forgotten about I'm afraid, The magic of train travel from the eyes of children.
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ozzman		#16 Posted : 14 September 2008 16:33:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Thanks for the link for the NI Main Trunk Line. Where on earth did the Ganz Mavang sets come from? I've never heard the name before.
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Macfire		#17 Posted : 15 September 2008 12:47:49(UTC) Retweet
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Bigdaddynz		#18 Posted : 15 September 2008 13:56:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ozzman <br />Where on earth did the Ganz Mavang sets come from? I've never heard the name before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganz
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Bigdaddynz		#19 Posted : 15 September 2008 14:01:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ozzman <br />Thanks for the link for the NI Main Trunk Line. BTW, the Main Trunk Line was completed in November 1908. So, this November celebrates 100 years since the line was completed. NZ Post are issuing some commemorative stamps. http://stamps.nzpost.co....dMainTrunkLineCentenary/
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SNAFU		#20 Posted : 15 September 2008 15:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2008(UTC) Posts: 279 Location: Naracoorte, South Austrlia		Great picture Bigdaddynz I use to ride these to high school in the mid to late seventies. It's been good following some of these threads of NZ trains of late.
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intruder		#21 Posted : 16 September 2008 01:01:55(UTC) Retweet
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Macfire		#22 Posted : 18 September 2008 07:10:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		OMG: [:0] [:0] Western line running as usual after collision 2:58PM Thursday Sep 18, 2008 Trains are running as usual on Auckland's western line after a collision between a car and a train earlier put a halt to services. Sharon Hunter of the Auckland Regional Transport Authority said reports the line would be disrupted for the duration of the day were incorrect. She issued a plea to motorists <u>not to park on train tracks</u>. - NZHERALD STAFF
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ozzman		#23 Posted : 18 September 2008 08:00:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Did some intellectual giant actually park on the tracks?!? Is there no limit to the sheer, staggering and astonishing depth of human stupidity? And just think: Not only do people like this get driving licences, they also get the right to vote!!!
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Macfire		#24 Posted : 18 September 2008 09:30:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		And reproduce apparently !
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ozzman		#25 Posted : 18 September 2008 09:34:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />And reproduce apparently ! What a frightening thought!!! [:0][:0][:0]
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Bigdaddynz		#26 Posted : 18 September 2008 10:33:34(UTC) Retweet
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Macfire		#27 Posted : 18 September 2008 22:57:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mvd71 <br />With the new rolling stock for wellington, would it be possible for Uncle Helen to have the system changed so that it is compatible with the rest of the Main trunk line?[:o)] Mike, I put the question to my captive train-nut here at work (Scott aka Donny) Here is his reply: Helen can order anything she wants (at least until 8 Novvy) but probably hasn't ever been asked. In my opinion its pathetic that the Wellington system wasn't upgraded from 1500v DC to 25000v AC as per the trunk and Auckland will also (hopefully - If John Key allows it to go ahead) be 25000v AC. Not too mention that in such a small country Welly and Auckers should have got the same equipment fro simple logistic reasons of compatibility anyhow. The only excuse is that all the overhead wires, poles, substations in Welly would have to be basically re-built at great cost to allow for 25000v AC. Also Welly is a couple of years ahead of Auckland in the process. They have already selected a supplier and let the tender. Auckland have done basically nothing. Make sense!
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Macfire		#28 Posted : 04 October 2008 02:53:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Hey Dave (or other Wellingtonian) The other week when I was down, I finally rode the rails to Silverstream to see big (very ill) sister. On the way back to Wellybob, south of the Kaiwharawhara Station, at the Freight Yard switch-out by the Aotea Quay Overbridges, I noticed that the rails were rust-free. All of the rail. Anyone know what they are made of???
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Bigdaddynz		#29 Posted : 04 October 2008 03:20:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		I must admit Macca, I don't go through there very often, since I'm now working in Petone.
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Macfire		#30 Posted : 06 November 2008 05:25:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Didn't take long: http://www.ironhorsehobb...101&products_id=2369
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mmrcnzjohn		#31 Posted : 06 November 2008 06:51:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 558 Location: ,		Supposidly the "new train" will start running on 1 December between Welly and Upper Hutt. Three loco's look like they have been refurbished, while the other two are sitting looking a bit worse for wear! John
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#32 Posted : 03 March 2009 06:13:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		looks like my mum has to be proud of even though I am not a mechanic since the Auto industry is so quiet and dad well he works at Hutt workshops for 4 years already hope his contract gets extended,I might be working for Tranz Metro when I move down in April or May
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