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#51
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<br />From Kerns Data Base
39103 2000- Dig.6090x Sinus III 01 1057 DB schwarz, Öltender
39104 2004 Dig.6090x Sinus III 01 1053 DB schwarz, VK:mhi
Yep - class 01.10 is not class 01 (sometimes called class 01.0-2).
There's nothing wrong with Mr. Kerns Data Base.
And class 03 is not the same as class 03.10 - though our well-beloved ITG sometimes uses it's 03 tooling for 03.10 locos ...
Class 23 is not the same as class 23.10.
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<br /><Hairsplitting>Neither is BR 01.</Hairsplitting>
I knew what you meant - and I didn't wanna fool you.
I tagged it hairsplitting coz it doesn't really matter.
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Thanks Tom for giving me some more choices for the setup.
Maybe better. Will try later.
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05 April 2008 02:52:48(UTC)
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Tom,
IN looking at the pictures of the Locos what we Have is described as a BR 01 . Similar to a MArklin 39010, 39011 39015. 39103 or 39104 are the 01.10
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Nev:
I got an e-mail that mine shipped today, so it looks like they still have a few. I ordered the one with the skirts as I thought that it looked cool. I know little about the BR01, what would be appropriate cars for it?
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05 April 2008 06:12:47(UTC)
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Good Shipping 2 days from order to shipping.
Not sure but I guess Express passenger cars from Late 20s to late 50s.
Sure someone will come up with the appropriate Cars.
N
Have a Look at Marklin.com database/
39110, 39011,39015 are BR 01 and have MFX Decoders.
39103 39104 are BR 01.10 and FX
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Nev:
For once it is good to be in the US. Less than 7USD for shipping! Unfortunately I will be back in Europe when it arrives and will have to wait until I get back to give it a test run. Looks like these get shipped directly form PCM in Florida.
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05 April 2008 17:22:34(UTC)
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Hi Nec, How much did they charge for postage to Australia?
I'm reading approx $40-$50 US dollars. Is that right?
GrEAT looking loco by the way, might have to sell/trade something of mine b4 the wife lets me buy one!
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<br />Hi Nec, How much did they charge for postage to Australia?
I'm reading approx $40-$50 US dollars. Is that right?
GrEAT looking loco by the way, might have to sell/trade something of mine b4 the wife lets me buy one!
Just found the Invoice $60 US Postage from Factory Direct Trains. Gets posted in Miami and delivery about 5-6 days.
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06 April 2008 03:02:14(UTC)
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The problem in this post with being overcharged was addressed in an effective and timely manner by the company. It was simply a matter of me calling during the weekend when the answering service takes and places the order.
As a result, my advice is that if you call to place an order try to do it during weekly regular business hours.
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06 April 2008 05:32:50(UTC)
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Larry:
Sorry to hear about your problems. I ordered via their website and had no problems. Hopefully they will sort it out for you on Monday.
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06 April 2008 06:30:52(UTC)
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Larry,
Similar. Via Web Site and No problems. Only thing there was about $15 difference between what they charged for Postage and what it Cost
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06 April 2008 15:27:54(UTC)
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Me too, no problems ordering from the web site (apart from
my
error mentioned above).
For both locos, the total price broke down as follows:
Authorized Amount: $312.00 USD
Shipping: $76.25 USD
I am happy
Have still to play [:p] [:p]
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06 April 2008 21:30:39(UTC)
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Well, thanks. Glad to hear no problems with customers from Australia, New Zealand and New Hampshire! It was probably a bad idea to order anything on a Saturday. I will see how they respond, assuming they will respond.
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07 April 2008 00:40:17(UTC)
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Larry. Looks like you have been unlucky but I was not sure whether to order this item or not and as any firm is only as good as their worst emlpoyee I will give them a miss.
Glad everybody else is OK though.
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07 April 2008 04:00:48(UTC)
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Well, this company has proven that it is very responsive in terms of customer complaints and my situation was resolved in a very timely manner.
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16 April 2008 18:23:22(UTC)
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I arrived home from Europe to find that my BR01 had arrived. Unfortunately, it looks like the decoder is fried. I am unable to read anything from it with my Lokprogrammer and it does not respond to commands from ECoS. I am waiting on a call back as to how to get a replacement. Now I feel the pain of all others with defective ESU decoders.
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17 April 2008 01:45:04(UTC)
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Mine is great.. Reminds me of Brawa - fantastic detail, but fragile... I am running mine in DCC mode to access all 12 functions... Which sleuthe smoker do I need and what function key does it use??
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17 April 2008 13:00:07(UTC)
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Wrong Era for me though...
What IS the era of the loco?
Looks like III to me. I might buy one, at least the price is right.
Will it work in pure analog AC? (no sounds, I suppose)
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17 April 2008 15:04:27(UTC)
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According to my manual it can be run in Analogue mode.. It is powered by a loksound v3.5, but my guess is that you have to use a programmer to put it into analogue mode first...
The ERA is interesting as it has a DB on the side, but all the documentation refers to DRG... 01 202 is the running number - so it should be possible to work out the history of the real one...
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Hendrik:
With a LS3.5 you can run it in analog mode. You can also program the decoder to have the lights and basic sounds operate in analog mode.
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So what seuthe unit goes into these locos?
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19 April 2008 09:47:02(UTC)
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Adrian,
A previous post by Nev along with an email from him:
Sleuth 11 for smoke generator.
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<br />Adrian,
A previous post by Nev along with an email from him:
Sleuth 11 for smoke generator.
Cheers
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Thanks Tony, I could not remember and was going to look it up.
Have a drink on me
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Thanks for the information Tony and Nev.. Now I need to go see Noel on Monday to check if he has one in stock..
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<br />Thanks for the information Tony and Nev.. Now I need to go see Noel on Monday to check if he has one in stock..
Better send Noel an Email. They are in Storage.
Nev
PS Have done it mate. [:p]
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Just ordered mine; Hope I have not waited too long. They do a beautiful job at BLI/Precision. I am sure you guys will help if I have trouble setting it up with my CS! Dave R
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My replacement BR01 just arrived. It was sent with no expense to me (including return shipping), so I have to give these guys high marks for customer service. I did an initial test to make sure that the decoder was ok and will do more extensive testing tonight!
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Who manufactures this item? Is it a Lilliput from Bachmann?
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02 May 2008 21:34:32(UTC)
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Precision Craft Models. Mostly metal with plastic detail parts. The decoder is a LS3.5.
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Hi mmervine,
Can you posted the pictures and test report, please?
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Steven:
I can't do better than the 360 degree photos on the Factory Direct Trains website, so I won't try.
Of course I was disappointed that the first BR01 had a bad decoder, but that it really an ESU problem. This is a great model for $156. It runs smooth, looks good, and the sound is good. I have an ECoS, so I tested it in the DCC mode so that all twelve functions were available. The sound was too load out of the box, so I used my Lokprogrammer to reduce the volume as well as change the address to '01'.
For the price, I don't see how you can beat this model!
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But it's not a Marklin!!.........
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SO What. Still Nice.....................
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But it's still not a Marklin!!.........
You see Nev, there is Marklin, and then there's every one else......
Having said that, I am tempted. Did Macca sell his second one??
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And it never will be, but it is definitely a nice engine for the $$$
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<br />But it's still not a Marklin!!.........
You see Nev, there is Marklin, and then there's every one else......
Having said that, I am tempted. Did Macca sell his second one??
I agree it is not Marklin but worth owning.
HAG are not Marklin either or should I swear and say Marklin are not HAG
Macca sold it. now living in a home near me. xxup [^]
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<br />But it's not a Marklin!!.........
So far I only sent M* locomotives back to the factory. [:(]
Being not M* can have positive aspects, too.
(I admit: I'd be in trouble if I had to send my BR 01 back to the factory.)
The majority of my locos is M*, therefore my personal statistics aren't representive.
Many problems are decoder problems - and nowadays you get ESU if you buy M*, Roco, GFN, Mehano, Brawa, PCM, ...
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<br />But it's not a Marklin!!.........
Yeah, and you can hear that! The sounds are better and the motor is less noisy ... [}:)]
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<br />But it's still not a Marklin!!.........
You see Nev, there is Marklin, and then there's every one else......
Having said that, I am tempted. Did Macca sell his second one??
Sorry Dave - went the same day almost.
But look at it this way, you can buy 2 BR 01's for the price of 1 mfx Marklin.
14-717 (01 202) for the "non-skirt"
http://www.factorydirect...zesmokedeflectornoa.aspx
That was the one I brought and then there is
14-718 (01 168) for the "skirt"
http://www.factorydirect...smokedeflectorwitha.aspx
BTW - If you do decide to order, contact me - I may just order (secretly of course) the 14-718.
Edit: Checked the price of a 39010 BR 01 from AJC Kids (Good to deal with - have done so in the past):
Marklin 39010 - Price: US$430.58
PCM 717 + 718 - Price: US$312.00 TOTAL for -2- Locos
Just to push you a wee bit more
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Hello,
I am brand new to this forum and new to this hobby. I purchased this loco after reading this forum. Thanks for all the information.
I received the loco promptly and followed instructions posted here. I programmed my MS with loco #39103 from the database. The loco works fine but the symbols are incorrect.
Light symbol = long whistle
Smoke symbol = sound on/off
Sound symbol = smoke (I think). I am unable to turn off the smoke generator. It seems always on. I have installed a seuthe 11. I am thinking the sound symbol is for the smoke generator but I am not sure (all other functions work fine although with interchanged symbols). I sent a message to Factory Direct Trains today.
I had a lot of trouble installing the generator. Even though there was voltage coming to the contacts, the smoke generator would not work. When I looked into the smoke stack, I could see a black wire obstructing the bottom contact. Finally, I pried open the bottom contact on the seuthe so that it is pointing downwards instead of sideways. Now it works but will not turn off. Any thoughts on this?
Here is my review on the loco
Pros:
1. Awesome detail
2. Great sound (too loud though. Unfortunately I cannot adjust the volume with my MS). I wish I could increase the duration of the brake squeal.
3. Quiet and smooth motor. Runs beautifully
Now the cons
1. Very flimsy. I am afraid to pick up the loco 'cos some of the detailed tubing comes off.
2. Very hard to open - I tried to open the loco to get the black wire out of the way of the smoke contact. It was a near impossible task and a lot of the detail came off (I was able to put them back with some difficulty)
3. Lights are not very realistic
4. It does not do well climbing up slopes. The articulation between the loco and tender (up/down motion) is nil. When the loco approaches an up slope, it just stops there with the wheels spinning. My other BR01.10 has no problems with this slope.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what is the solution?
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<br />4. It does not do well climbing up slopes. The articulation between the loco and tender (up/down motion) is nil. When the loco approaches an up slope, it just stops there with the wheels spinning. My other BR01.10 has no problems with this slope.
I agree with this comment... I need to play around with it to see what can be done.. I suspect that the pivoted platform between the loco and the tender may be the key..
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<br />I am unable to turn off the smoke generator. It seems always on. I have installed a seuthe 11.
It is a loksound decoder and you may need to find someone near you with an eCOS or a Loksound programmer.. If you can wait a little longer I am going to get a smoke generator for mine, later this week, and I will see what it takes to get the smoke to switch on/off...
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Hmmmm, because I have several inclines on my layout, this may be a sticking point against me buying one of these locos. No point having one if it won't go over the bridge...
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Try changing the adress, then immediatly turn the smoke on, off, then the lighting on, and off. I have a Piko with this decoder, and this is what they tell you to do, or the lights will never light again. Maybe with a programmer, they can be.
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I rechecked the coupling between the tender and loco. It seems to have sufficient up/down motion. The fact that the pick up shoe is installed on the bottom of the loco may be causing the poor performance climbing up hill. Not sure.
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