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EricBrian		#1 Posted : 05 January 2008 04:03:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/12/2007(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: , VA		Hello, I am considering replacing the motors of two trains I have purchased cheaply on ebay with 5 pole motors. Where do you buy your 5-pole motors? And, how hard is it to do this? Do I need special tools? Thanks! :) Eric
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RobertMcDowell		#2 Posted : 05 January 2008 05:18:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 157 Location: Salinas, CA		Eric - I presume you are going digital. Check this site http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/ for the type of motor in the locomotive: SFCM, LFCM or DCM. There should be a Märklin Dealer in your neck of the woods if you want to stay Märklin. I believe here are a few: http://www.marklin.com/c...mber=LOCATE&state=va If you can find a 60901, 60903, or 60904, you can update to 5 pole digital and not pay the premium for MFX. Additionally, check for ESU decoders and motors. Same as Märklin only cheaper.
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xxup		#3 Posted : 05 January 2008 05:35:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,588 Location: Australia		Ah Rob.... They won't fit into Z scale.. [:I]
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Bigdaddynz		#4 Posted : 05 January 2008 05:36:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Please bear in mind Eric, that the site Robert refers to is about 85% correct, but there are errors. So, to double check, you could post pictures, and details of the loco, and I'm sure forum members collectively can help you identify the motor type. However, you have posted this query in the Z Scale section of the forum, so are you enquiring about replacement motors for Z scale locos? In that case, I'm not sure if they are available. The kit numbers Robert refers to are for HO locos.
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RobertMcDowell		#5 Posted : 05 January 2008 06:22:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 157 Location: Salinas, CA		Oops! [:I] I should've read the forum category! If you grow to HO, you'll be prepared!
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RobertMcDowell		#6 Posted : 05 January 2008 06:31:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 157 Location: Salinas, CA		If I may try again, I did find this: http://eurorailhobbies.c...ilhobbies.asp?PageID=171 Euro Rail Hobbies is in Canada so my first post with the link for Märklin Dealers to get the parts is still good for dealers in VA. As to special tools and difficulty, the above link does mention complexity and size as an issue.
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RobertMcDowell		#7 Posted : 05 January 2008 06:38:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 157 Location: Salinas, CA		and this: http://www.zscale.org/articles/fivepole.html
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Bigdaddynz		#8 Posted : 05 January 2008 06:41:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RobertMcDowell <br />Oops! [:I] I should've read the forum category! If you grow to HO, you'll be prepared! Don't worry Robert, I've done the same thing at least twice recently......[:I] Thanks for the web page link, you learn something new every day on this forum!
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intruder		#9 Posted : 05 January 2008 18:06:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Interesting information! I have been looking for the possibilty to replace the 3-pole motor in my set 81560 to 5-pole.
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EricBrian		#10 Posted : 05 January 2008 21:05:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/12/2007(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: , VA		Yeah, great info. I wonder if any of you have a video of how to do this. :)
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Heine Pedersen		#11 Posted : 05 January 2008 23:35:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 87 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by EricBrian <br /> And, how hard is it to do this? Do I need special tools? No, it's very easy. Just lift the old one out and put the new one in.
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shaygetz		#12 Posted : 06 January 2008 02:37:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2006(UTC) Posts: 348 Location: , Florida		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RobertMcDowell <br />and this: http://www.zscale.org/articles/fivepole.html Nice link, I had to add that one to my blog.
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Charlie		#13 Posted : 13 January 2008 01:52:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 707 Location: Texas, USA		There ia a dealer in the US who stocks all the motors and brushes. If you try to replace the armature in your BR89 (8800, 88051), it's better to let a pro do it, unless you have special tools. Charlie
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