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Offline garben  
#1 Posted : 04 December 2025 17:05:16(UTC)
garben

United States   
Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC)
Posts: 172
Location: New York
Hello there.

I've been trying to understand how Start Delay, Start Behavior and Speed Momentum all work.

What I'm attempting to do is when a train is put in motion, either manually, by Spontaneous Run or Auto Train, I would like the sound on, lights on and some other functions. I have set this up like this:

-Set a Start delay for train
-Have the functions I want on to activate at Beginning of Start Delay

The issue I'm having is that during the start delay, the train ramps up speed and once the start delay is over it take off at full speed. I have Momentum all the way up but that does not help. I'm thinking it has something to do with the Start Behavior but I'm not really sure how that works. Do I put in a value (time) in all 126 speed steps? What have you done?

Also, does can anyone explain through your experience of how the Momentum settings and Start Behavior and start delay all interact with each other?

Thank you in advance!
Norbert
Marklin HO, CS3+, Train Controller 10 Gold, Any era. Like Swiss Locomotives.
Offline JohnjeanB  
#2 Posted : 04 December 2025 18:19:56(UTC)
JohnjeanB

France   
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,685
Location: Paris, France
Hi Norbert
Here a Märklinist from Paris, France, using Rocrail since over a decade, lately using a CS3
Don't go away yet as principles in TC or Rocrail are VERY close if not quite identical.

Here is the little I know
- never try to replicate what Rocrail or TC does for you (e.g. control a train, its speed in a direct way as TC or Rocrail controls it in as both control those in respect of WHERE the train is and the possible occupation of nearby blocks). This direct speed ,control may lead to very confusing and CONFLICTING results (starting slow, progressive and then full throttle.)

- you want to start a train with delay. In Rocrail, this is called a schedule either started by an absolute time (e.g.: 15:37) or by a relative time (e.g.: T0+37 minutes). This schedule lists the blocks or areas (when multiple tracks for destination exitst in parallel), possible change of direction, etc. Of course all this will be executed only if safety permits (non-occupied blocks, etc). Of course the clock may be the real time (a bit too slow) or with accelerated time x2, x3, ...x10)

- now you want to trigger fonctions. With Rocrail (probably very similar with TC, they are called ACTIONS) you may include one specific fonction (public announcement, turn on platform lights etc) in a block (when entering, when departing, when reserved), in a route (when reserved, when freed, etc), you may condition an action for a given loco or train, when in forward, when in reverse or indifferent) and each time, associated with the fonction triggering you may set a delay timer

- you want to change speed of trains Instead of doing it directly you must set FOR EACH loco, the line speed, station speed, minimum speed (so that an heavy freight does not behave like a TGV
- Next you must set the inertia adjustement for each loco IN THE LOCO ITSELF by programming its decoder.
- once you have done those adjustments, TC or RR will set the station speed or line speed in accordance with signals and settings (you may check the box for reduced speed on a zone full of track pieces.

Here is what I do with Rocrail (correcting the speed, position the loco exactly above a decoupler (loco-specific program) before commanding decoupling.
Approx 2:12 into the video, you may see a program to position each loco exactly in front of the water crane and a fonction (Action) that triggers the water crane either to the side of the tender or to the center of the tender depending where the water hole is located


I hope this helps (sorry there is so much more to say)
Jean
Offline blid  
#3 Posted : 04 December 2025 23:02:00(UTC)
blid

Sweden   
Joined: 02/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 256
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
I don¨t have the H0 layout with TC anymore and version was Gold 9. I used Schedules, not Autotrain. As far as I remember the properties of Autotrain contains the same set of “Rules” as Schedules. There is an entry for start delay. Default was 2 sec. If that is not enough increase it. For Start and Finish you may create lists with the desired functions.
If by momentum you mean acceleration/deceleration it is set in a number of places. In the decoder, in the controller and in TC. As Jean writes the programs want to have control. In other words; no or very low values in the decoder and controller. I didn’t experiment with it in TC but I think the program use the power of the engine and the weight of the train, set in the train properties, to make the estimates.
As for speed I assume you have calibrated your engines and set the max. You can also set max speed for every block. There is also the option to add temporary speed limits at specified distances within blocks.
I hope I remember correctly and that this helps.
OneGauge Marklin and MTH, ESU ECoS 2.1 on LGB tracks. MTH 3-rail 0-gauge, DCS on GarGraves tracks. Z: Rokuhan tracks, analog or DCC+TC Gold.
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