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Is it normal the train gets small sparks under the wheel, or do I need to fix anything? (nothing happend yet)
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,559 Location: Paris, France
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Hi Originally Posted by: Coen236  Is it normal the train gets small sparks under the wheel, or do I need to fix anything? (nothing happend yet) With C Track, it is definitely not normal I think because, usually sparks are indicatives of short current peacks results of short-circuits. I suggest you - wipe your rails with a piece of softwood, not forgetting the studs (the only thing in C Track that rusts - make sure all sliders are in good shape (no grove), STRAIGHT, exactly at an equal distance between the wheels - clean the wheels. I use a wood stirrer (from drinks) to remove the big things and finish with a cotton bud wet with Isopropyl alcool - have the locos axle clean. The easiest is to let them run for a while after having lightly lubricated them (Using a seringe is best) NOTE: do not expect your train to run absolutely fine after not using them for more than one or two weeks Cheers Jean |
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,887 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Occasionally I have noticed tiny sparks as a slider runs over turnouts, but it doesn't affect the smooth running, or trip my CS3 to stop. Possibly dust oir a crroked slider?
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Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 676 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth
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I found felt furniture pads which I cut and soak with isopropyl alcohol to clean c-track. The felt is dense and does not leave residue on the track even the center nubs.
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Note that isopropyl alcohol is a major contributor to micro sparks and dirt on the tracks. Consider choosing another liquid for cleaning from the table on page four of this article: https://s3-us-west-2.ama...online/index.html?page=9(Myself, I’m using a Contact Cleaner since a couple of years, and am very impressed.) |
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That's a really good article. It would be good to overlay that article with another one about wheel slippage on tracks. I suggest that kersosene would not be a good choice, even though it has the best non-polar rating, as the wheels would slip on the rails from the oily residue. The problem is that model trains also have rubber tyres. https://www.fernco.com.a...e-Chart-V002JUL22-LR.pdf is another chart to overlay, but we need to understand the type of rubber used on Marklin locos. |
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You also have the new cleaner/smoke "oil" from Marklin 02423 and 02422 acoring to the datasheets its basically the same as Steam & Clean Reinigungsdestillat from HygiThe stuff seems to be basically purified kerosine/paraffin. (C11-13 isoparaffin). and interestingly seems to have a dielectric constant of 2.12 Some contact cleaners might be hard on paint and some plastics, so an Electronic cleaner or similar might be better, as they often are not so "strong". In either case, look for plastic and subbe safe ones.
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Joined: 09/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 11 Location: Zuid holland,schiedam
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Only the slider sparks a tiny bit. not that the sparks come out of the wheels or something . It is not constant but every 2 seconds 2 tiny sparks. I saw this in a other modelroad too, so First I think it was normal. Also it does nothing to the speed oor something
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Originally Posted by: bph  You also have the new cleaner/smoke "oil" from Marklin 02423 and 02422 acoring to the datasheets its basically the same as Steam & Clean Reinigungsdestillat from HygiThe stuff seems to be basically purified kerosine/paraffin. (C11-13 isoparaffin). and interestingly seems to have a dielectric constant of 2.12 Some contact cleaners might be hard on paint and some plastics, so an Electronic cleaner or similar might be better, as they often are not so "strong". In either case, look for plastic and subbe safe ones. The new smoke oil appears to be the same stuff as used in smoke machines at pop concerts and the like. It seems to be an alcohol based mix rather than a hydrocarbon based mix, which is why they claim it doesn't leave an oily residue.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan  Originally Posted by: bph  You also have the new cleaner/smoke "oil" from Marklin 02423 and 02422 acoring to the datasheets its basically the same as Steam & Clean Reinigungsdestillat from HygiThe stuff seems to be basically purified kerosine/paraffin. (C11-13 isoparaffin). and interestingly seems to have a dielectric constant of 2.12 Some contact cleaners might be hard on paint and some plastics, so an Electronic cleaner or similar might be better, as they often are not so "strong". In either case, look for plastic and subbe safe ones. The new smoke oil appears to be the same stuff as used in smoke machines at pop concerts and the like. It seems to be an alcohol based mix rather than a hydrocarbon based mix, which is why they claim it doesn't leave an oily residue. I'm not a chemist but I don't believe it is alcohol-based, the safety data sheet states that it contains 100 % Hydrocarbons, C11-C13, isoalkanes, <2% aromatics. also known as C11-13 isoparaffin. and it is used in a lot of products from flamethrowers car wax, solvents and cosmetics. "Variations" in the Carbon numbers are also common.
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,887 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Parafin and water makes ense, and is non toxic, which the new fluid is.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999  Occasionally I have noticed tiny sparks as a slider runs over turnouts, but it doesn't affect the smooth running, or trip my CS3 to stop. Possibly dust oir a crroked slider? Sparks from wheels are normally due to dirt on track or wheels. If the sparks happen over a turnout, check your contact slider for alignment and balanced pressure at both ends of the slider. If the spark is happening when you are going over a turnout that connects two C track circuits, reverse the polarity of one of your transformers (turn the plug around), you are causing a short by connecting two transformers with opposite polarity.
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Joined: 09/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 11 Location: Zuid holland,schiedam
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WHats happening now:
Sometimes on the rail the train stops randomly and then I need to push it and it go's further again.
If the rail is like 2 meters away from the trasnformer, it is going very slow on same power. Guess the contact between the rail is not that good, how can I fix it?
Also today when I was driving, I noticed a big spark was coming of the slider or the wheels (near or on the switches) It was just something as a sparkler you use on new year. Just for a fraction of a second, but it din't look good. This happend 3 times near or on the switches. Any fix or help? I cleaned the track now whit some kitchen, worked a bit;)
thanks for replying!
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Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 497 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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What kind of locomotive is it? Is it new or old? Do you have other locomotives? And how do they behave?
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The sparks that appears are oxid dust results by slider in contact with the stud contact (made of thin tin plate). It depends contact with the metal. After months of drive with the slider on the Märklin tracks it result a line of black soot trail on the stud contacts. Clean your tracks in both rail and the stud contacts. Do not forget clean the slider too and the wheels! |
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Joined: 09/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 11 Location: Zuid holland,schiedam
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  After months of drive with the slider on the Märklin tracks it result a line of black soot trail on the stud contacts. oh yep I did tha/t today! the wheels and slider also! Did worked a lot better again
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Joined: 09/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 11 Location: Zuid holland,schiedam
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen  What kind of locomotive is it? Is it new or old? Do you have other locomotives? And how do they behave? It's an analouge br 216, It seems not new, but not so old as my fathers schlafwagen xd Well, like I said it's analouge, so it can't be that new. I don't exacly know how old it is. Over the stuttering, I don't know exactly but when I drive at 100/150 over it the stuttering is gone. SO my depots are very struggly because the train barely drives there
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