 Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Hi all, total newbie to this forum! My dad passed away last week and left me with his Marklin train set. He's had it since he was around 5/6/10 years old. My dad was born in 1950. On a booklet with the set it says HO bottom left, with the numbers 763 top right.  I hope the picture has attached! I'm looking to find out what year this set was built mostly. There's a lot of pieces with this set, some carriages, engines and train wagons, along with lots of track and some junction pieces with wires attached. Some of the boxes aren't in the greatest condition, with some doing ok for their age. I have instructions pages for some individual items as well. A lot of the pieces are still in good condition for their age, the odd part not quite so. The only history I know of it is that my dad's dad played with this one day when my dad was young. He wasn't allowed to play with it himself, just to sit and watch his dad with the set. Appreciate any feedback.
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 Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
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Hi Stef (Your first name?) I am very sorry for your dad (I lost my wife a year ago, we were married 50 years) so my condoleances to you. Here a Märklin HO fan from France (born 1946) Welcome to this great forum The book 763 was published in 1938 (German edition). It is a track plan book. Here is an enlargement of the loco (my scan)   sans.bmp (1,488kb) downloaded 5 time(s).The loco is apparently a BR01 with Wagner steam deflkectors with a coal tender T34 So the BR01 was produced by Märklin multiple times: - the HR700 produced in 1937 and 1938 with an optional direction control by rectifying the voltage - the HR800 was produced from 1938 until 1946 with a simplified tender and Wagner screens. Prewar, there were editions of the LMS and LNE for the British market - the F800 from 1952 to 1957 was a marvelous design with a T34 coal tender but with Witte smoke shields (the smaller one) So lets dream a little bit We are in 1936 and here is the most luxurious train box with 2 trains, a railway station tracks and turnouts  Now we jump after the war in 1950 On top of page 17 of the catalogue (B&W because of restrictions) we have an HR800 loco with Wagner deflectors  Now we jump in 1955 and the catalogue offers this  And I could go on forever because Märklin offered MANY versions of this BR 01 loco (Flagship of the DB) So, lets stop with this train box 3126 of 1959 with a BR01 3048 (with smoke unit) and 4 cars, a splendor  Cheers Jean |
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Hi Jean!
Thanks for your reply. And thanks regarding my dad, it's not been easy lately. I'm Stefan. I'm sure my dad found the name from his time in Germany - his dad was in the RAF.
I recognise some parts from the pictures you've posted, most notably the SK 846/4. I'm not sure exactly if that's the correct model I have but it looks very much like it. The Marklin train set my dad has left to me has many individual boxes which I am still cleaning. I need to find a way to clean them properly without harming parts - by that I mean I don't want to let any parts become rusty later.
I need to take pictures to see exactly what I have, but I know there's a Märklin Doppeltriebwagen DT 800 which is a beautiful piece! I will take some pictures when I have the chance and post them here.
Kind regards Stefan
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Joined: 05/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 368 Location: England, Bedford
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Hi Stefan,
You'd be very welcome to join us for our Marklin gathering 6-8 September at The Sun Felmersham Bedford MK43 7EU
Loads of Marklin chat and nostalgia.
IanC
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Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom
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Hi Stefan,
Welcome to the forum.
You’ve got an exciting Märklin journey ahead of you. The key publication you need is Koll’s Katalogue. It is a detailed catalogue of everything that Marklin has produced in the HO range. Try and get hold of an older one say pre 2015. It comes with pictures! Although in German it’s easy to use and you will be able to identify what you have.
You will need part 1 for the locos and part 2 for the rolling stock. Unfortunately I am cataloging and selling a large collection based in Healing, not too far from you, otherwise I would willing lend you mine. Perhaps another member of the forum could lend you the catalogue. Or if you send me photos I can look them up for you.
If you can make the meeting above, it would be great to meet you
All the best
Adrian
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Hi Adrian!
I'll see if I can look up a cop of that and see what's what. I am planning on getting pictures taken and uploaded soon.
There's definitely a Märklin Doppeltriebwagen DT 800. I have a lot of track, junctions and other pieces. Along with carriages, locomotives and other rolling stock.
I've only ever seen the train set after my dad passed away last week. I've been trying to clean all the pieces up as it needs it. If you have any tips on cleaning pieces, feel free to let me know as it's a bit tricky to clean properly.
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Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom
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Hi Stef,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I was visiting my nieces over the weekend and have picked up one of those Nursery bugs from the toddlers.
Anyway on to matters in hand, a couple of pointers before cleaning
1) I expect you have one of the controllers in a blue metal case. Please do not use it. Overtime the insulation etc inside deteriorates and the thing becomes dangerous. If you are looking for a controller I recommend getting a new white one from Marklin.
2) on you tube look up “the 3rd rail” and “MarklinofSweden”. The 3rd rail has an exclusive analog system and some of his deal with maintenance of locos rolling stock and metal M track. Some of Marklinof Sweden’s” earlier videos also deal with the same topic.
Onto cleaning
If you are just looking to remove dust from locos etc I would start with a soft brush, either a paint brush or one of those ladies big make up brushes.
For something more stubborn, for bodywork etc, a very weak solution with fairy liquid and cotton buds should do the trick. After the soapy solution clean
water. If you can get a hair dryer to get rid of any residual water.
Mechanical
I use WD40 contact cleaner in a spray can. Gets rid of most gunk in the locos. You could also use brake fluid cleaner. After cleaning you’ll want to relubricate. A very light oil, like sewing machine oil or MARKLINS proprietary oil.
Track
Again soapy water, the track is quite robust so don’t be afraid. Wash of with clean water and then air dryer or in the oven! Just to get rid of residual moisture.
Hope this helps
Adrian
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Hi Adrian!
Thanks for your reply.
I have a huge task on my hands here!
Some of the locomotives, carriages etc are wrapped in paper, the paper is old and grotty. Each time I take the pieces out of the paper I feel a very fine dust. So it kinda feels like things are clean yet not quite so.
I've found one of the guys on YouTube for cleaning, so I need to get hold of some bits and pieces to get started with a better clean up.
I have some pieces that are blue, they have holes in the sides for connectors I think - haven't looked at them properly yet.
I'll be popping in here and on the Facebook page for this forum a lot in the coming weeks and months!
Regards
Stefan
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Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom
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Hi Stefan,
When your models were produced, Marklin used to wrap the models in paper before putting them in the boxes. It sounds like the original wrapping.
The blue boxes probably have two rows or push buttons on them. These are for controlling accessories like points and signals. Over time the plastic warps and the things are useless. Just ditch them!
Adrian
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Hi Adrian,
Do you have any recomendations for a material that i can wrap pieces in instead? This will more than likely be once i've given everything a proper clean.
Stefan
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Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 567 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom
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Hi Stefan,
For locos I would use thin bubble wrap, for coaches and wagons tissue paper or thin kitchen paper.
Adrian
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 Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,976 Location: CA, USA
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I can't help but chime in here. Seeing an image of nice boxes above, and letters like DT800 below, I wouldn't touch a thing yet beyond unpacking and trying a test run.
Post some images. A little newspaper dust doesn't hurt the trains, but the wrong cleaning will. I wouldn't try to oil or do mechanical work until I know how they stand as-is. You have some expensive items by the sound of it, so I'd err on the side of caution.
In addition, if they are pretty good and only need a 50 year tuneup, it isn't an expensive job to hand to the experts. 50-100gbp well spent to tune up a handful of locomotives. When you consider a DT800 with box is worth a grand, and its parts are not something you want to break, this isn't money wasted.
"They are only original once"
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 Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Hi Stefan,
When it comes to servicing and looking after Märklin trains, the YouTube channel “Märklin of Sweden” is worth looking at.
Cheers….
Mike
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Given your items date from the 1950's, then most likely any transformers you have will also date from that period. Before attempting to use them we would suggest you have the transformers checked by an electrician as the mains cable insulation on them is rubber and over time that insulation perishes leaving bare exposed wires carrying mains voltage. To see what we mean take a look at https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t32687-You can perform a quick check for issues yourself. Unscrew the cover off the mains plug on the transformer and inspect the cable. If the rubber insulation shows any sign of deterioration then it is a fair bet the cable inside the transformer has also perished. In any case and regardless of that, best to have the mains cable replaced with a modern one.
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Given your items date from the 1950's, then most likely any transformers you have will also date from that period. Before attempting to use them we would suggest you have the transformers checked by an electrician as the mains cable insulation on them is rubber and over time that insulation perishes leaving bare exposed wires carrying mains voltage. To see what we mean take a look at https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t32687-You can perform a quick check for issues yourself. Unscrew the cover off the mains plug on the transformer and inspect the cable. If the rubber insulation shows any sign of deterioration then it is a fair bet the cable inside the transformer has also perished. In any case and regardless of that, best to have the mains cable replaced with a modern one. I can from experience confirm what you just stated here: I acquired a newer transformer, and after opening: I witnessed the main wire completely bare...  Just be careful while opening the transformer: the turning knob is very steadily connected to the cover, but connected to the other part of the transformer with a wire... Hope this helps
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Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,475 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
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Stefan,
Were you the person talking to a member of the Abingdon & District Model railway Club at Millets Farm over the weekend? If so I believe the member you were speaking to may be going to refer you to myself.
Some of those items do have some significant value, and I may be able to help you realise that value. The items look to be in much better condition than I was envisaging when another member of the club told me about the contact, if it was you they were talking with.
Alan
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Stefan,
Were you the person talking to a member of the Abingdon & District Model railway Club at Millets Farm over the weekend? If so I believe the member you were speaking to may be going to refer you to myself.
Some of those items do have some significant value, and I may be able to help you realise that value. The items look to be in much better condition than I was envisaging when another member of the club told me about the contact, if it was you they were talking with.
Alan Morning Alan, no I wasn't that person. I haven't been on here long
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Hi Stefan,
Those are fantastic examples of classic Märklin models. Worth looking after and servicing before use.
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Cheers…..
Mike
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Originally Posted by: mvd71 Hi Stefan,
Those are fantastic examples of classic Märklin models. Worth looking after and servicing before use.
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Cheers…..
Mike Thanks Mike! After seeing my dad's set for the first time last week, it's made me realise just how good the quality is. The set still looks great now. I can only imagine how good it looked brand new! Stefan
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 Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,453 Location: Scotland
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Can I ask are you just looking to sell or a you going to build at layout and run the trains yourself. If selling I would do very little to any of the items other tha maybe clean with a soft brush.
I would not consider using the transformer unless checked by an electrician for safety.
IF selling then you can advertise here and you can also get advice on a value.
IF you wish to use the items and build a layout then of course you will get help on this forum.
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Can I ask are you just looking to sell or a you going to build at layout and run the trains yourself. If selling I would do very little to any of the items other tha maybe clean with a soft brush.
I would not consider using the transformer unless checked by an electrician for safety.
IF selling then you can advertise here and you can also get advice on a value.
IF you wish to use the items and build a layout then of course you will get help on this forum. Nope, not selling! I'd like to give things a little clean, see what certain parts are like to maybe give it a build up and run and go from there. A few people have mentioned the transformer parts..... I'm not jumping head first in to anything major just yet. Edited by moderator 23 August 2024 08:16:20(UTC)
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Joined: 21/02/2016(UTC) Posts: 219 Location: Just north of London
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Originally Posted by: Stef73 but I know there's a Märklin Doppeltriebwagen DT 800 This one worth a pretty penny, be careful to not damage it.
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Joined: 19/08/2024(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Doncaster
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Originally Posted by: HO Collector Originally Posted by: Stef73 but I know there's a Märklin Doppeltriebwagen DT 800 This one worth a pretty penny, be careful to not damage it. Still got a lot of work to do to get it all cleaned up. Then I have to see what I need in order to be able to get it running as there's no power pack that I can see with the set.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Any modern white cased Marklin transformer such as 6647 or 66471 should be fine to run your items with. You might want to take a look at this thread as there may be some links there to manuals / booklets, etc that may help you. https://www.marklin-user...ns---requested-documents
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