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Offline mvd71  
#1 Posted : 18 May 2024 12:09:24(UTC)
mvd71

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Hi Guys,

I don’t suppose anyone has photos they could share of loco depot prototypes with transfer tables similar to the Märklin 7294?

Cheers….

Mike
Offline ccranium  
#2 Posted : 18 May 2024 22:52:38(UTC)
ccranium


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The Rottweil lok shed that M says goes along with it is shown in this image; it looks like back in the day, Rottweil had a turntable that fed into the transfer table (in the background): https://archive.rottweil...riebswerk_Um_1975_01.jpg

It was a much more impressive yard than currently: https://archive.rottweil...hof_Rottweil_um_1920.jpg

I did a search online for "deutsche bahn Schiebebühne" images and there are quite a few. Mannheim, Rosenstein, Osnabrück. Stuttgart-Rosenstein had the catenary arches at both ends like the 7295 so perhaps it was the prototype. A satellite view from today shows 20 incoming tracks and only 7 going into the lok shed on the other side; I'm not quite ready to model that...

Thanks for sending me down the rabbit hole on a rainy Saturday! I'm getting closer to installing my 7294 so it was time well spent!

Brian
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 18 May 2024 23:01:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ccranium Go to Quoted Post
The Rottweil lok shed that M says goes along with it is shown in this image; it looks like back in the day, Rottweil had a turntable that fed into the transfer table (in the background): https://archive.rottweil...riebswerk_Um_1975_01.jpg


I'm intrigued that the locos in the roundhouse have been driven in frontwards, normal European practice seemed to be to back the loco into the roundhouse. I was under the impression only the Americans put them in front first.

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Offline JohnjeanB  
#4 Posted : 19 May 2024 11:36:55(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Hi Mike

For German Locomotive depots I found this
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Unfortunately this is a computer-created image

In France I have a picture of the old loco depot (La Chapelle) North of Paris gare du nord.
This is taken just before its destruction (new locos almost don't need maintenance)
lachapelle.png

Here is the depot inside for a last exhibition before destruction
depot inside.jpg

Cheers
Jean


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Offline mvd71  
#5 Posted : 20 May 2024 00:18:20(UTC)
mvd71

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Thanks Jean, those photos look really nice.
Offline ccranium  
#6 Posted : 20 May 2024 01:52:11(UTC)
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Hi again, Mike. The Rottweil transfer table is shown at 5:32 and 5:41 in
.

Here's a color image of the Stuttgart-Rosenstein table.

Sttugart Transfer Table.jpg
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Offline PJMärklin  
#7 Posted : 20 May 2024 08:58:08(UTC)
PJMärklin

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Hello Mike,

I bought my 7294 from German eBay four years ago and have just now begun the project of installing it on my layout.

In the interim, like you I was looking for images of the transfer tables in real, mainly to see how the overhead wires are arranged in prototype.

So here are some of the images I collected, I hope they are of some use to you :

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This article from Stummis forum is also of interest : https://www.stummiforum....-rklin-Schiebeb-hne.html (translates well on my computer)

My 7294 came fitted with the double-arch overhead wire supports.
This did not suit me since my layout oberleitung is by Sommerfeldt and I removed the arches (I was not aware of the Sommerfeldt set as shown in the Brima video referred to in the Stummis article above). One notes that the older (prototypical to 7294?, which is said to be of Stuttgart) schiebebühnen have the arches and a single overhead wire on the table bridge (interestingly the second and fourth text images in the stummi article above reveal the four powerline wires running on the edge of the transfer table well which make contact with a receiver on the edge of one arch. They can also be seen in the ninth of the images above).
The more modern transfer tables instead have overhead wires that span each side of the locomotive yard over the transfer table well (seen as early as the era in the thirteenth image above) and the loco once on the table lowers its pantograph, raising it when the table reaches the required siding. This better suited my setup and I am modelling the overheads in the loco yard as seen in this nice video of the locomotive yard and transfer station at the Port of Hamburg :



Regards,

PJ
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Offline mvd71  
#8 Posted : 20 May 2024 09:59:30(UTC)
mvd71

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Wow! Thanks PJ, that is absolutely perfect. And the link through to the Bimo site through stummi is great 👍

Cheers…..

Mike
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Offline dickinsonj  
#9 Posted : 21 May 2024 00:55:38(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Thanks from me as well PJ. ThumpUp

Those great images of railroad history are priceless to me.

Thanks for posting.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline GlennM  
#10 Posted : 21 May 2024 03:04:56(UTC)
GlennM

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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post
Hello Mike,

I bought my 7294 from German eBay four years ago and have just now begun the project of installing it on my layout.

In the interim, like you I was looking for images of the transfer tables in real, mainly to see how the overhead wires are arranged in prototype.

So here are some of the images I collected, I hope they are of some use to you :
Regards,

PJ


Excellent and many thanks for posting PJ ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline 1borna  
#11 Posted : 22 May 2024 20:06:19(UTC)
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Zagreb, near the railway vehicle factory Končar
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A special measuring vehicle made entirely by us
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The train has equipment for recording about 15 different parameters on the infrastructure, and is equipped with a kitchenette, a toilet, a shower cabin and a bedroom with 2 beds.
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