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john black		#101 Posted : 24 May 2007 09:45:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Aaaah, your pictures of excellence [:p][:p][:p] make our day - many thanks, Al !!!
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steventrain		#102 Posted : 24 May 2007 19:31:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Excellent triple engines.
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Bart		#103 Posted : 24 May 2007 23:22:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich Me too!!! [.....] This accumulates all of the new designed models since 1991; yet this year my collection should still grow by the 11404 "Luzern" from #29680 - to "keep balance" between green and red liveries - and the Ae6/6 Cargo #37373. [:p] Hi Lutz, All, My small collection Today, this picture is to celebrate a special occasion: I acquired the 3050 (Bern 11414) exactly 40 years ago: on 24 May 1967 Lutz, I am having the Ae6/6 Erstfeld #<s>37373</s> 37363 on order as well [:p] As we are 2 listed for the limited series, I wonder who those other 997 are
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steventrain		#104 Posted : 24 May 2007 23:53:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice collection,Bart.
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Bart		#105 Posted : 25 May 2007 01:08:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich From left to right (lower row, green - upper row red ones): 11414 Bern Kanton (#3638, converted to c91 and various light options) 11403 Schwyz Kanton (#37362, mfx sound) <u>11439 Frauenfeld (#3650</u>, c80, with grey buffers) 11453 Arth-Goldau (#29850/51, mfx sound) 11437 Basel Stadt(#3737, c90) 11428 Luzern (#37366, c91) 11425 Genf Kanton (#3636, converted to c91 with various light options) 11422 Vaud Kanton (#37361, mfx sound) 11417 Fribourg Kanton (#3736, c90) 11520 Langnau i.E. (#37362, mfx sound) 11426 Zürich Stadt (#3739, c90) 11432 Stans (#28505, Delta) 11463 Göschenen (#39361, C-Sinus) Very impressive collection, Lutz, congratulations! Just for clarification: 3350 11439 Schaffhausen or 3650 11445 Frauenfeld? 11439 11445
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steventrain		#106 Posted : 25 May 2007 09:39:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice pictures,Bart.
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bmcrae		#107 Posted : 26 May 2007 08:45:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich ..................- and the Ae6/6 Cargo #37373. [:p] Since I am a big fan of SBB like yourselves gentlemen I am prompted to ask.......... WHAT?? When did this happen? I tried to search this model under the 37373 number but the Ae6/6 is not what I found. However the 37363 did appear at a few swiss dealers. I see Lutz and Bart are on the list, how about you Guus? The Ae6/6 in CARGO colors is a must have for me!! [:p][:p][:p]
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pserup		#108 Posted : 26 May 2007 09:19:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by bmcrae The Ae6/6 in CARGO colors is a must have for me!! [:p][:p][:p] Me too !!! And second that question; when was this announced?
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Guus		#109 Posted : 26 May 2007 15:08:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi all, It's at this dealers site where I saw the 37373 first: http://www.zuba-tech.ch/ It's under button: Exklusiv CH Modell "-Exklusiv Märklin 37363 limitierte Lok Ae 6/6 "Erstfeld" H0 WS Märklin Ae 6/6 Cargo CHF 498.00 Anzahlung 49.00 Limitierte Auflage von 999 Stück Lok Ae 6/6 "Erstfeld" mfx Decoder,Hochleistungsantrieb , Sound Zwischen 1955 und 1966 wurden 110 Stück der Ae 6/6 durch die SLM Winterthur gebaut. Momentan werden voraussichtlich 80 Stück umlackiert und umgebaut zur Ae 6/6 Cargo. Diese Loks werden bis ca. 2016 in Betrieb sein bis zur Eröffnung des Gotthard-Basistunnels-". Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Brian: I see Lutz and Bart are on the list, how about you Guus? I haven't decided yet. HAG will probably have their own version,which might be very desirable too. On the other hand,what I regret most is that I didn't buy the Swiss Märklin models when they were still available,like the 37343 Re 4/4II in TEE livery. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Bart: My small collection Congratulations Bart,what a nice selection!!. Kind regards Guus
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steventrain		#110 Posted : 26 May 2007 16:07:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Full list of marklin record A6/6. More that 20 models of A6/6. http://www.bahn.hfkern.de/Maerklin/CH_ae66.html
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pserup		#111 Posted : 26 May 2007 19:53:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Thanks Guus Just sent an order to hopefully secure one...
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Guus		#112 Posted : 26 May 2007 22:19:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		You're welcome Palle. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Just sent an order to hopefully secure one... Let's keep our fingers crossed. Kind regards Guus
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Bart		#113 Posted : 27 May 2007 01:23:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus I haven't decided yet. HAG will probably have their own version,which might be very desirable too. On the other hand,what I regret most is that I didn't buy the Swiss Märklin models when they were still available,like the 37343 Re 4/4II in TEE livery. Hi Guus, all, Yes, HAG have announced the Ae 6/6 Cargo Erstfeld (#610 492-1, with the Gottardo logo), although it's not on their website yet. At least as interestingly, they do also have the Re 6/6 in Cargo livery, even one with 2 motors and Lokpilot [:p]: SBB Re 6/6 Cargo 2mot."MURI" Artikel-Nr.: 20 031-31 Lok-Nr.620033-1 eckige Lampen And I agree, not ordering the 37343 in 2001 was the stupidest decision I ever made. A HAG 216 (now 16 009-32) should be OK as a replacement, though.
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bmcrae		#114 Posted : 27 May 2007 01:57:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bart ............ not ordering the 37343 in 2001 was the stupidest decision I ever made. I second that thought as well.... [:(!] I also decided at the time that waiting to get the 37362 would be a good idea as we had a new baby on our hands.... [:I] Ooops!
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Hemmerich		#115 Posted : 27 May 2007 02:02:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bart <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <u>11439 Frauenfeld (#3650</u>, c80, with grey buffers) Very impressive collection, Lutz, congratulations! Just for clarification: 3350 11439 Schaffhausen or 3650 11445 Frauenfeld? Hi Bart, many thanks for the compliments - but your collection is very nice as well!!! I can fully understand your "disbelieve" - my model has indeed road #11439 from #3350, which is normally the "Schaffhausen" but has the printed(!) city logo of Frauenfeld which normally belongs to road #11445 of #3650 which I had bought then - so a real "misprint"; that's what maybe makes my model very unique and why I really like it so much. The next pic gives you the proof; as you and others might recall these models were also delivered with the adhesive labels (#256030), which I show here and keep complete and intact together with the model since almost 20 years now. You can as well see that besides the grey buffers I've also "enhanced" my model with narrow pantograph sliders (which you cannot really buy - I got mine directly from Mr. Sommerfeldt during a visit at his company). Yes, it looks like you, Guus and myself are already three of those 999 people interested in this special SBB Cargo model [:p] (one had even already been offered on ebay for the full price; I'm not sure if that's legal, even despite the remark that you only purchase the right to order!).
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bmcrae		#116 Posted : 27 May 2007 03:47:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich ,,,,,,,(one had even already been offered on ebay for the full price; I'm not sure if that's legal, even despite the remark that you only purchase the right to order!). Nice pictures Lutz, many thanks! The ebay auction you speak of seems to have been stopped. It was there last night when I was searching for the Ae6/6, but now it seems to be gone.
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Guus		#117 Posted : 27 May 2007 14:05:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Bart: At least as interestingly, they do also have the Re 6/6 in Cargo livery, even one with 2 motors and Lokpilot[:p] : I have that Re 6/6.It runs like a dream. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:And I agree, not ordering the 37343 in 2001 was the stupidest decision I ever made. A HAG 216 (now 16 009-32) should be OK as a replacement, though. That's what I've been thinking too.Considering the auction prices of the Märklin TEE nowadays,the HAG version might even be a more "economical?" substitute. Kind regards Guus
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Bart		#118 Posted : 27 May 2007 15:44:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich I can fully understand your "disbelieve" - my model has indeed road #11439 from #3350, which is normally the "Schaffhausen" but has the printed(!) city logo of Frauenfeld which normally belongs to road #11445 of #3650 which I had bought then - so a real "misprint"; that's what maybe makes my model very unique and why I really like it so much. The next pic gives you the proof; as you and others might recall these models were also delivered with the adhesive labels (#256030), which I show here and keep complete and intact together with the model since almost 20 years now. Very interesting, Lutz! I knew that they came with the Schiebebilder, but I was sure that you would have been the last one in the world to mount the wrong adhesive logo over the road number - so I did not even consider that option Have you heard of any more of these misprints turning op at auctions, or would it really be a single piece?
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Bart		#119 Posted : 27 May 2007 15:49:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus I have that Re 6/6.It runs like a dream. Congratulations, Guus! Very impressive. I suppose that probably is not the one you got at an auction at a very low price?
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Bart		#120 Posted : 27 May 2007 16:16:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by bmcrae [Nice pictures Lutz, many thanks! The ebay auction you speak of seems to have been stopped. It was there last night when I was searching for the Ae6/6, but now it seems to be gone. The Ebay ad was from a German shop, offering 10 pieces of the Erstfeld. Last time I saw it, it said '9 of 10 available', and then it was removed: http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem [:0]
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laalves		#121 Posted : 27 May 2007 16:21:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		I remember reading somewhere that ebay.de and Märklin had signed an agreement where ebay would prevent Märklin pre-sales. This may be one of those cases. Insider loks pre-sales would, of course, also be forbidden. Luís
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Guus		#122 Posted : 27 May 2007 16:21:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Bart: Congratulations, Guus! Very impressive. I suppose that probably is not the one you got at an auction at a very low price? Thank you Bart! Thats right,I bought a red 207 "Balerna" at the swap meeting in Houten. She is still equipped with an electronic reversing unit and I'm planning to convert her to digital soon. Kind regards Guus
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Bart		#123 Posted : 28 May 2007 01:26:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Great hunting today, Palle Congratulations!
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pserup		#124 Posted : 28 May 2007 13:11:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Thanks Bart! And yes, I think it was a god price too
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Hemmerich		#125 Posted : 28 May 2007 15:14:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />I remember reading somewhere that ebay.de and M�rklin had signed an agreement where ebay would prevent M�rklin pre-sales. This may be one of those cases. Insider loks pre-sales would, of course, also be forbidden. IMHO not restricted or directly related to Märklin. The ebay offer was placed by "Hobby-Shop" in Gelterkinden. He is as well offering this loco in his own store (same description as Zuba-Tech).
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laalves		#126 Posted : 28 May 2007 19:14:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Lutz, I meant that Märklin and ebay agreed to have ebay remove anyone's listing to sell Märklin items that have not been released yet by Märklin. Luis
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john black		#127 Posted : 29 May 2007 13:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />I remember reading somewhere that ebay.de and M had signed an agreement Signing such, what would be ebay's advantage
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Caplin		#128 Posted : 31 May 2007 14:46:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik <br />Could you give us more info about this beauty? thanks Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Vardex <br /> And this one.... Bart For those interested in the Dutch Balwin Class 1200 some nice details of the proto type are available here: http://www.railfaneurope.net/ns/acts_1250.html
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Alberto Pedrini		#129 Posted : 08 July 2007 01:08:25(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#130 Posted : 08 July 2007 12:08:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice,I like blue livery.
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Vardex		#131 Posted : 08 July 2007 22:35:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 404 Location: vlaardingen,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik <br />Could you give us more info about this beauty? thanks No Ok...I repainted it myself, but it will come from M in the near future, probably 2008. I don't know if they will bring out black livery, but the blue one for sure. Bart
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Caplin		#132 Posted : 08 July 2007 23:54:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Vardex No Ok...I repainted it myself, but it will come from M in the near future, probably 2008. I don't know if they will bring out black livery, but the blue one for sure. Bart FYI - the blue NL 1200 "Baldwin" is already at the dealers - catalog no. 37121 - engine no. 1215 [:p]
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Caplin		#133 Posted : 09 July 2007 00:08:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik <br />Summer pics 2 What a treat! Thanks for sharing.
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Vardex		#134 Posted : 09 July 2007 03:23:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 404 Location: vlaardingen,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Caplin FYI - the blue NL 1200 "Baldwin" is already at the dealers - catalog no. 37121 - engine no. 1215 [:p] This is not the blue one I am talkin about. There is als a blue one in the ACTS livery, this one is coming 2008. Look here http://www.railfaneurope.net/ns/acts_1250.html About the 1215: It's a shame that marklin didn't get the colour right. The original is much darker, and it's colour deeper. Look here http://www.nicospilt.com/Lok1200.htm Bart
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Caplin		#135 Posted : 10 July 2007 00:01:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Vardex This is not the blue one I am talkin about. There is als a blue one in the ACTS livery, this one is coming 2008. Look here http://www.railfaneurope.net/ns/acts_1250.html About the 1215: It's a shame that marklin didn't get the colour right. The original is much darker, and it's colour deeper. Look here http://www.nicospilt.com/Lok1200.htm Bart It is good news that another 1200 is coming. Great link to many good pictures of the 1200. Thanks.
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Vardex		#136 Posted : 03 October 2007 02:29:15(UTC) Retweet
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Caplin		#137 Posted : 03 October 2007 04:15:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		That's a beauty. Pls. tell more about the colour change.
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Vardex		#138 Posted : 04 October 2007 16:18:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 404 Location: vlaardingen,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Caplin <br /> That's a beauty. Pls. tell more about the colour change. Hello I wasn't satisfied with the finish of the black one, orange lines could be better. Also prototype isn't black anymore. They accidently painted it blue due to a miscommunication. More pictures of my blue one in one of my photobucket albums; http://s84.photobucket.c...bums/k38/gixxer_01/ACTS/ Bart
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steventrain		#139 Posted : 04 October 2007 16:34:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice, Bart.
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intruder		#140 Posted : 04 October 2007 23:21:46(UTC) Retweet
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