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Offline rhfil  
#1 Posted : 22 November 2023 15:19:10(UTC)
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I have a new to me Marklin loco, 37018, which looks and sounds great but occasionally it seems to hit spots where the drive wheels spin but the loco does not move. I dread replacing the traction tires and wondered if there was any way to make them less slick?
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Offline marklinist5999  
#2 Posted : 22 November 2023 16:07:24(UTC)
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Good question rhfil. I use a liquid plastic polymer. Amazon sells it. I apply thinly with a toothpick. It comes in different colors. Buy the thin viscosity, but not a ruberized type for tool handles, etc.
If you can't power the wheels while upside down, turn them to expose the bare areas as it dries. It should dry clear within a couple of hours or so. It also works excellent on wheels without any tires. Any unevenly treated spots will wear down with running. Too much will cause rail contact dead areas.
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Offline BenP  
#3 Posted : 22 November 2023 16:56:01(UTC)
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Try this first. Lift the tires from rim without removing them entirely. Clean rim and tires' inside with alcohol. Let dry and return tire to rim. This would remove any greasy residue that lowers tire-rim traction.
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Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 22 November 2023 22:36:00(UTC)
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The alcohol won't dry the rubber even more? I am hoping to get a link to the liquid plastic polymer mentioned above. A search on Amazon brings up way too many products.
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 23 November 2023 08:48:46(UTC)
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That loco is very sensitive about upward changes of the incline. The weight of the loco will then rest on the running axles and the axle with the traction tyres will spin freely in the air.
Maybe that's the issue here. Does it always happen at the same spots? Are rail bent upwards at those spots?
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Offline David Dewar  
#6 Posted : 23 November 2023 11:19:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Good question rhfil. I use a liquid plastic polymer. Amazon sells it. I apply thinly with a toothpick. It comes in different colors. Buy the thin viscosity, but not a ruberized type for tool handles, etc.
If you can't power the wheels while upside down, turn them to expose the bare areas as it dries. It should dry clear within a couple of hours or so. It also works excellent on wheels without any tires. Any unevenly treated spots will wear down with running. Too much will cause rail contact dead areas.


Could we have a link or info regarding the make etc.
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Offline Michael4  
#7 Posted : 23 November 2023 12:09:20(UTC)
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If the tyres are a bit old and someone has done some generous lubrication it is possible that the tyres are slipping on the wheels...
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Offline rhfil  
#8 Posted : 26 November 2023 19:34:48(UTC)
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A very little bit of alcohol applied to the traction tires in locations I had access to applied with a q-tip worked. Thanks.
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