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Offline john black  
#601 Posted : 25 January 2009 17:40:30(UTC)
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Well, BigDaddy - for running an BB double-header I definitely were in need of a big layout.
Still more, guess by next year the Grandkids' layout is due for construction, anyway [:p]

And I'm way too lazy for building a third !!! [xx(][xx(][xx(]
So my micro layout with only one BB is just fine for me ... Smilebiggrin[^]
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#602 Posted : 25 January 2009 17:49:19(UTC)
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Fair enough John. If I ever get your way, maybe I could bring mine to visit! biggrin
Offline john black  
#603 Posted : 25 January 2009 18:57:13(UTC)
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Offline john black  
#604 Posted : 27 January 2009 00:51:50(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jerdenberg
<br />Nice freight set, that 45649 [but the price ...]

Right, Jeroen - €370 are some money. Well, if getting it another problem were space.
Since 10 <u>additional</u> cars eat a lot of this out of a small layout ... [:I]

But, frankly - I had hoped for some RIO GRANDE or SOUTHERN PACIFIC freight cars.
Since we have bought M's $$$$$$ ALCO double-header Diesels, anyway ...
[xx(][}:)]
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Offline alonso231gery  
#605 Posted : 27 January 2009 19:08:26(UTC)
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370 is the suggested price, the actual i expect to be around 330.
At last now M seems to have a tendency to create more box cars in different liveries.
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Offline john black  
#606 Posted : 27 January 2009 19:21:47(UTC)
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Won't get it. Nice but not my livery ...
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Offline jerdenberg  
#607 Posted : 28 January 2009 13:11:48(UTC)
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Even €330 is a lot of money, especially in comparison with the Trix 20-car sets that can be snatched from Ebay at €210 (UP) or €219 (various). I do not know the price of Märklin couplers or AC wheel sets, but a lot of money is left for those if you look at the price difference. Compare also with 45646 that originally cost more than €200 but was offered for something like €130 not long ago.

Jeroen

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Offline alonso231gery  
#608 Posted : 28 January 2009 13:21:17(UTC)
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I will buy it, it will be among the few M items that i will buy for this year.
All liveries seem the same to me.
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Offline pserup  
#609 Posted : 28 January 2009 22:55:14(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />But, frankly - I had hoped for some RIO GRANDE or SOUTHERN PACIFIC freight cars.
Since we have bought M's $$$$$$ ALCO double-header Diesels, anyway ...
[xx(][}:)]

Good point John!

I spotted this on ebay recently, but forgot to bid on it [:(]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eB...IT&item=190276941296

Well never mind, I would never had gotten it with that price [:0][V][:o)][B)][xx(][}:)]

Same guy bought this:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eB...IT&item=190276942222

and this:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eB...IT&item=190276940345

No financial crisis there biggrin
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Offline alonso231gery  
#610 Posted : 29 January 2009 10:47:19(UTC)
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Today after one year of MRR idleness, i used my layout, of course some parts of the tracks were full of dust, my new br 218 39183 could not handle it and stopped at these sections, but that was not the case for the Alaska loco the 3663 which had no problem at all.
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Offline nevw  
#611 Posted : 29 January 2009 12:04:57(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />Today after one year of MRR idleness, i used my layout, of course some parts of the tracks were full of dust, my new br 218 39183 could not handle it and stopped at these sections, but that was not the case for the Alaska loco the 3663 which had no problem at all.


R so you are no longer General but civilian, but to normal activities.

Congratulations.

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Offline alonso231gery  
#612 Posted : 29 January 2009 14:13:48(UTC)
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Offline john black  
#613 Posted : 29 January 2009 14:53:06(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />the Alaska loco 3663 which had no problem at all.

No surprise ... Smile[:p]Cool

Right, Jeroen - that 20-car set is a deal ... Smile

Palle, you too are right. €127-€203 for one tinplate box car is pure madness.
And then they aren't even M's genuine liveries but some guy's airbrush job ...
A few make a fortune at ebay. Since every morning another fool gets up biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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Offline alonso231gery  
#614 Posted : 30 January 2009 11:56:59(UTC)
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The derailment sensitivity is an issue for all f7s though. These locos detest curves and turnouts.
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Offline john black  
#615 Posted : 30 January 2009 15:13:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />The derailment sensitivity is an issue for all F7s though.
These locos detest curves and turnouts.

Right, Nikos. But only if you run 'em coupled BACK TO BACK [xx(][xx(][xx(] - the way M delivers them ...
Such double-header configuration is extremely prone to derailments (same goes for PA1s).

That's why I run ALL my U.S. double-header Diesels this way (BTW - both are correct, protypically).
Also prefer the looks. No derailments, ever since SmileSmileSmile (and of course never happened with solo locos).

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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline alonso231gery  
#616 Posted : 30 January 2009 16:45:57(UTC)
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They do not look nice in that mode John, i prefer the original one, i will decrease the speed.
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Offline john black  
#617 Posted : 30 January 2009 17:38:06(UTC)
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An option, Nikos - but slow speed works only with F7s on C-track Smile[^]
(if I had known before I had built all levels with troublefree C-track)

On K-track regular turnouts back-to-back F7s do derail even at the slowest speed [:I]
And on C-track curved turnouts (WORST !!! piece of track, ever - on such even
my Grandson's simple V100 derails)
back-to-back PA1s give the same trouble [:I]

All this regardless of direction. That's why I had to change (some work) [xx(] all double-headers ...
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline sudibarba  
#618 Posted : 31 January 2009 03:40:21(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />An option, Nikos - but slow speed works only with F7s on C-track Smile[^]
(if I had known before I had built all levels with troublefree C-track)

On K-track regular turnouts back-to-back F7s do derail even at the slowest speed [:I]
And on C-track curved turnouts (WORST !!! piece of track, ever - on such even
my Grandson's simple V100 derails)
back-to-back PA1s give the same trouble [:I]

All this regardless of direction. That's why I had to change (some work) [xx(] all double-headers ...



Hi John,
I've got a lot of F7 doubles and triples and run them on C and M track. I have never noticed a derailing problem. Is this a K track thing or am I just lucky?
Eric
Offline john black  
#619 Posted : 31 January 2009 10:35:03(UTC)
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Hi Eric,

my layout's analog base level is K, and this is where I run most of my F7s (they are analog).
It must be a K-track thingy. Perhaps because of the somewhat tighter tolerances ... confused

Running a solo F7 over a K-turnout (no matter if slowly or full throttle) - no trouble at all Smile[^]
But the very moment I try this with two <u>back-to-back</u> coupled F7s - they derail ... [:I][:I]
You even can observe the two motorized (inner) bogies' inability for easy lateral movement.

Although the bogies' frame "bearings" (big word for two simple pieces of sheet metal) are
well greased, a combo of two coupled <u>heavy</u> bogies simply won't work reliably on K-turnouts.
My best guess: two heavy motor bogies plus a rather tightly built turnout make no love affair ...

No problems on the (upper digital) C-track level with my SANTA FE or ALASKA double-headers Smile[^]
(I just try to avoid those funny curved turnouts - they give me trouble all the time)

Guess we can rest assured with our C-track, Eric. If I had known before also my analog level were C.
Talk about learning by doing ... biggrin

John
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Offline steventrain  
#620 Posted : 31 January 2009 10:51:01(UTC)
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Nice collection of F7s, John.
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Offline Caboose  
#621 Posted : 31 January 2009 12:20:00(UTC)
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I have some F7's.

My old layout was a mix of K and C-track. Only tight curves.
Never problems with derailments, no matter what combination.

However. After an accident with the T&P F7, that loco was always deraling. So i checked it up cloosely.

The investigation showed that one of the locomotives axel/wheel back-to-back measure was to big! This occured after the accident with the T&P F7.

After adjustment to the right back-to-back measure there was no problem.

CONCLUSION. The wheels don't sit tight on some of the F7's. They can sometimes easely slide on the axle, change the back-to-back measure, and cause a derailment.
Sweden & USA
Offline john black  
#622 Posted : 31 January 2009 14:15:27(UTC)
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Thanks, Caboose. Will check this ...

But then those back-to-back derailments happened with brand new out-of-the-box locos.
Never came back when switched to the double-header combo as shown above. Strange ...
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline jerdenberg  
#623 Posted : 31 January 2009 14:34:49(UTC)
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Just spotted the first solid discount for the 45649 car set, priced at €299.90. Still a bit steep, but ...

Jeroen
Figomima division, UP; mostly figment of my imagination yet.
Offline alonso231gery  
#624 Posted : 19 February 2009 16:15:53(UTC)
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I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
Offline john black  
#625 Posted : 21 February 2009 03:22:53(UTC)
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Wow, Nikos - I really do envy you for this silver beauty ... Smile[:p]Cool
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline steventrain  
#626 Posted : 21 February 2009 12:28:12(UTC)
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Very nice, Nikos.wink
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Offline alonso231gery  
#627 Posted : 21 February 2009 12:36:24(UTC)
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Thank you Smile.
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#628 Posted : 22 February 2009 00:17:52(UTC)
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Interesting!
I´m using my 37941 for my 45652 Set 3-Railroad Maintenance Cars.
Never thought of using them with the 43600...
But what consist am I gonna use for 37621 and 83341 then...
Offline alonso231gery  
#629 Posted : 25 February 2009 18:45:38(UTC)
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The 29490:
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The loco is a piece of art, a supreme model, it deserved much better than being in this set.

UserPostedImage

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Offline john black  
#630 Posted : 26 February 2009 12:45:59(UTC)
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Great, Nikos ... but can we have a picture of the cars - unpacked on track, please confusedSmile
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline alonso231gery  
#631 Posted : 26 February 2009 14:12:54(UTC)
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As you wish Cool:

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Offline foumaro  
#632 Posted : 26 February 2009 15:36:26(UTC)
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Great set Nikos.biggrinCool
Offline alonso231gery  
#633 Posted : 26 February 2009 17:19:51(UTC)
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Thank you PanayiotiSmile, now i want that new ten wagon set, the 45649, since you do have the 37491 you should start buying US stuff too...
Ps: I am lucky not having bought that set 2 months before, cause my dealer now decided to split his sets.
I saved 200 euros, i will get the 29841 with what i saved, only the wagons and the loco for 180 euros.
Panayioti you should see his new offers at his website wink.
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
Offline Goofy  
#634 Posted : 26 February 2009 18:22:26(UTC)
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Beutiful godscars...!
But look at the wheelflanges...!!! [xx(]
AWFUL...! [xx(]

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Offline jvuye  
#635 Posted : 26 February 2009 19:04:02(UTC)
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Be positive Goofybiggrin...at least these don't derail too oftenwink
I have tried playing with "scale" NMRA flanges...the fun goes out fast!
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Offline john black  
#636 Posted : 26 February 2009 22:38:22(UTC)
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Very nice pictures - thanks, Nikos [:p]

BTW, for those missing M's most heavy Diesel -
there is one brand new left from a starter set.
€150 only Cool

http://www.fundgrube-nea...de/onlineshop/index.html

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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline alonso231gery  
#637 Posted : 26 February 2009 22:41:33(UTC)
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These US tank cars are quite tiny.
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Offline steventrain  
#638 Posted : 26 February 2009 22:41:45(UTC)
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Very lovely wagons set.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline alonso231gery  
#639 Posted : 26 February 2009 22:44:49(UTC)
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Thank's Steven Smile.
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Offline john black  
#640 Posted : 26 February 2009 22:50:30(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />But look at the wheelflanges...!!! [xx(]

Just knew this would come. It simply had to biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline alonso231gery  
#641 Posted : 27 February 2009 01:42:08(UTC)
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Very nice dealer John but does not have much stuff.
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
Offline foumaro  
#642 Posted : 27 February 2009 06:09:49(UTC)
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Yes i must see the offers Nikos.please inform me.Cool
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />Thank you PanayiotiSmile, now i want that new ten wagon set, the 45649, since you do have the 37491 you should start buying US stuff too...
Ps: I am lucky not having bought that set 2 months before, cause my dealer now decided to split his sets.
I saved 200 euros, i will get the 29841 with what i saved, only the wagons and the loco for 180 euros.
Panayioti you should see his new offers at his website wink.
Offline john black  
#643 Posted : 27 February 2009 11:15:08(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />Very nice dealer John but does not have much stuff.

Right, Nikos. They had way more just a few years back ...
Now they do concentrate on less items - but most of them are real bargains SmileSmileSmile
Guess today's dwindling sales force them keeping a low stock to overcome the crisis ... [:I]
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Offline alonso231gery  
#644 Posted : 27 February 2009 13:55:58(UTC)
alonso231gery

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Have a look Panayioti:

http://www.modeltrains.gr/

The PA-1 is for me, the worst motorized US item, too much noise, not enough pulling power, the motor is unable to cope with the engine's weight.
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
Offline WelshMatt  
#645 Posted : 27 February 2009 16:39:13(UTC)
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I'm surprised that not many people seem to fit Kadees to their Marklin models. If you use the NEM pocket sort they'll go on without altering the model, and when properly set up they're very reliable. Just make sure you get genuine Kadees as the others are nothing like as good.

Matt from Wales.

When you pay Range Rover prices, don't accept Lada quality
Offline HGH  
#646 Posted : 04 March 2009 16:35:03(UTC)
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<br />Very nice pictures - thanks, Nikos [:p]

BTW, for those missing M's most heavy Diesel -
there is one brand new left from a starter set.
€150 only Cool.....


High John,

the price is good but not cheap. I got my for about 130 EUR on ebay. wink
B.t.w. here is a lot of stuff for tunig Marklin ALCO PA models.
http://hgh-esn.ath.cx/p02_ma_3761x_ALCO-PA1_i.htm

Lastly, I have a wich.
Can anyone tell me a bit mor about the "marker-lights". My dream is to make them functional.
with kind regards ... HGH

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#647 Posted : 05 March 2009 02:25:16(UTC)
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That's a very nice set of US freight wagons, Nikos.
All from the locality of NE USA, to suit the GG1.
Yes, the trouble free running certainly outweighs the mild distraction of outsize flanges.
regards
Kimball
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Offline alonso231gery  
#648 Posted : 05 March 2009 02:55:46(UTC)
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Thank you Kimball, the only problem is that my layout is getting smaller and smaller.
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I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
Offline GSRR  
#649 Posted : 15 March 2009 23:11:21(UTC)
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John,

Thanks for a great thread. The AT&SF F7 was my first US lok and still my favorite. I have been looking around for a 37622 boxed set with no luck. (I have seen an unboxed set) For those who follow the 37622, what has been the recent market prices?

Regards,

Thomas

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Offline alonso231gery  
#650 Posted : 16 March 2009 01:14:11(UTC)
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I believe Thomas it is around 350 euros.
I got mine for 300, some years ago, but she was part of the 29848 set.
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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