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Offline Luna  
#1 Posted : 03 November 2023 05:08:50(UTC)
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Luna

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Has anybody come up with a way to put the 74030 insulator on the track rail? I seem to be able to put a couple on no problem and then I run into a piece of track that will not accept the insulator. Is there some trick to consistently get them on? Maybe soften them with hot water? I've already ruined a fair amount of track pieces due to the insulator distorting the rail during application. Can't use pliers either as they ruin the insulator. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Offline PeFu  
#2 Posted : 03 November 2023 06:27:10(UTC)
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I usually use tweezers to "push" the metal sheets together a little, according to the blue arrows. After this, I find it easy to apply the insulator.

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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 03 November 2023 09:47:43(UTC)
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I apply the red cup at the corner of the inner lid, then gently push the inner lid to the outside of the track, then push the cup over both lids.
Same effect as PeFu's method, but without a pair of tweezers.
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Offline Flupke  
#4 Posted : 09 November 2023 14:39:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PeFu Go to Quoted Post
I usually use tweezers to "push" the metal sheets together a little, according to the blue arrows. After this, I find it easy to apply the insulator.

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So you squeeze shut the outside connector, but what do you do with the connector where the insulator goes into. I have tried to pry the insulator between the two metal prongs, but it doesn't seem to hold the insulator in place. It is not clear from the picture how the insulator is held in place.

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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 09 November 2023 15:29:17(UTC)
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I have tried to pry the insulator between the two metal prongs, but it doesn't seem to hold the insulator in place.
You push the insulator over a pair of metal prongs.
To make this easier, you can squeeze them together with a pair of tweezers.

The red insulators can be used for the centre-rail (inside prongs) and for the outer rails (outside prongs).
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#6 Posted : 10 November 2023 02:55:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Flupke Go to Quoted Post
I have tried to pry the insulator between the two metal prongs, but it doesn't seem to hold the insulator in place.
You push the insulator over a pair of metal prongs.
To make this easier, you can squeeze them together with a pair of tweezers.

The red insulators can be used for the centre-rail (inside prongs) and for the outer rails (outside prongs).


Thanks, I had not seen that there was a hole in which the metal prongs were supposed to slide in. I got it to go in using tweezers.

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Offline JohnjeanB  
#7 Posted : 10 November 2023 22:13:04(UTC)
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Hi Luna
Originally Posted by: Luna Go to Quoted Post
Has anybody come up with a way to put the 74030 insulator on the track rail? I seem to be able to put a couple on no problem and then I run into a piece of track that will not accept the insulator. Is there some trick to consistently get them on? Maybe soften them with hot water? I've already ruined a fair amount of track pieces due to the insulator distorting the rail during application. Can't use pliers either as they ruin the insulator. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Luna

There is a simple way. No tweezers needed, simply push the insulator sleeve in blue arrow direction without excessive force. Works every time! Do not hesitate to trash damaged sleeves
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Note: there may be some tricky tracks where probably force was exerted on the contacts. The result is not both contacts are at the same, "altitude" resulting into difficulties inserting the sleeve. First make sure both contacts face each other before inserting the sleeve

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Offline Luna  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2023 04:06:04(UTC)
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I still have to insist that Marklin couldn't have made something that should be simple so difficult for someone that has normal sized fingers if they had purposely tried to. This is the only way they could figure out how to insulate their tracks? I also know that I'm not the only idiot that has trouble putting those nasty things on the rails. Thanks to all who have come up with ideas of how to get them on. I maybe get one success for four screw ups. At this point I've given up trying to make contact tracks.
Done with rant.
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Luna
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Offline dickinsonj  
#9 Posted : 12 November 2023 01:21:00(UTC)
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Good point about normal sized fingers. I get around that by using tweezers to put them in place, where they often stay for years.
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