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Offline ROBMODEL  
#1 Posted : 24 February 2023 11:02:33(UTC)
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Märklin anounced a surpise new model. https://www.maerklin.de/flying-scotsman.

Regards, Rob
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Offline Dimi194  
#2 Posted : 24 February 2023 11:16:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ROBMODEL Go to Quoted Post
Märklin anounced a surpise new model. https://www.maerklin.de/flying-scotsman.

Regards, Rob


I have an OO Hornby beginner version, but this one looks great (and will have the classic Marklin sounds etc)! However, the price is making my eyes water...

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Offline thing fish  
#3 Posted : 24 February 2023 11:39:59(UTC)
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Link not working Crying

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 24 February 2023 11:54:54(UTC)
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Link not working Crying

C.


Try these links
Trix version.
Marklin version.
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Offline thing fish  
#5 Posted : 24 February 2023 12:12:39(UTC)
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Try these links


Thanks!

Loco looking very good BTW Drool
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Offline bph  
#6 Posted : 24 February 2023 12:26:17(UTC)
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#7 Posted : 24 February 2023 12:50:08(UTC)
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nice ThumpUp


Yeah, there goes my budget for the year, I'm figuring there will be some coaches in the Summer or Fall NI brochures.

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Offline Eurobahnfan  
#8 Posted : 24 February 2023 12:58:15(UTC)
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I remember seeing the Flying Scotsman on its North American tour many, many years ago… still have all the souvenirs that were being handed out. Part of me would love to have this, but another part is saying “Do you really need another one-time lok… especially if they may not offer corresponding coaches?” It’s a nice model, though not for me.
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Offline bph  
#9 Posted : 24 February 2023 13:07:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
nice ThumpUp


Yeah, there goes my budget for the year, I'm figuring there will be some coaches in the Summer or Fall NI brochures.



Let's hope for some proper coaches Smile. it seems like they used the 43109 in the video.
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Offline mbarreto  
#10 Posted : 24 February 2023 13:29:23(UTC)
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I will go for this one!
It s impressive the time it was announced as I was thinking in a Hornby alternative (2 rails) for the Flying Scotsman.
Perfect synchronized announcement with my wish :-) Almost unbelievable.

Edit: and it is H0, not 00 according to the specifications. I don't know how 2 rails 00 people will look at this.

Regards,
Miguel
Best regards,
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Offline mbarreto  
#11 Posted : 24 February 2023 13:47:00(UTC)
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It has an adjustable close coupler between the locomotive and the tender. I think it will be like the newer Märklin steamers and I personally don't like th ewide distance in the normal running conditions.
Older locomotives like the BR45 37455 and the BR 01 39010 had a better gap between the tender and locomotive. I understand that the new ones are better for display but for running the distance is too big in my opinion.
The close coupling cinematics of the old ones was enough. I don't know if some detail was not there for having that, but the final result was better.

Regards,
Miguel
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#12 Posted : 24 February 2023 13:56:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
nice ThumpUp


Yeah, there goes my budget for the year, I'm figuring there will be some coaches in the Summer or Fall NI brochures.



Let's hope for some proper coaches Smile. it seems like they used the 43109 in the video.


Suppose they sort of look like 'blood & custard' ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

I have some Hornby Pullman coaches from their 'high detail' or whatever they called them range.

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Offline mbarreto  
#13 Posted : 24 February 2023 14:30:31(UTC)
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I am surprised this announcement is so close to the new items announcement, as it is only about 1 month difference.
Even more impressive is the end date for the Insider 2023 order was not reached yet, so maybe this announcement divert some to prefer the Flying instead of the BR 03.10.

I think the availability of the Flying Scotsman is for 3rd or 4th quarter as it is shown yet as not finished model... let's wait and see.

Regards,
Miguel

Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline mbarreto  
#14 Posted : 24 February 2023 14:35:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
nice ThumpUp


Yeah, there goes my budget for the year, I'm figuring there will be some coaches in the Summer or Fall NI brochures.



Let's hope for some proper coaches Smile. it seems like they used the 43109 in the video.


In the video they promote the blue/cream CIWL Edelweiss coaches as one set looking good close to the locomotive, so maybe they will not have any new specific set for this year.
Despite this I think they will develop a specific one but for later, maybe for late 2024 or so.
Just speculating....

regards,
Miguel
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#15 Posted : 24 February 2023 15:32:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
nice ThumpUp


Yeah, there goes my budget for the year, I'm figuring there will be some coaches in the Summer or Fall NI brochures.



Let's hope for some proper coaches Smile. it seems like they used the 43109 in the video.


In the video they promote the blue/cream CIWL Edelweiss coaches as one set looking good close to the locomotive, so maybe they will not have any new specific set for this year.
Despite this I think they will develop a specific one but for later, maybe for late 2024 or so.
Just speculating....

regards,
Miguel


Yeah, but they don't really go with the loco. They will obviously be looking to produce more versions of the loco, I imagine one as it was in the US with bell and the large headlamp shown in the video, at least one in the earlier livery and road number 4472, again as in the video, so I think there will be plenty of opportunity to have some British coaching stock to run with it.

I am surprised that the model shown isn't closer to a finished product, I was expecting a more or less immediate delivery like happened when they announced the DSB 'Surprise loco'. It seems maybe the management learnt something at the Toy Fair that caused them to bring the announcement forward, to pip another manufacturer (like Hornby or Bachmann) at announcing a version for the same reason - the centenary of the loco.

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Offline Bryan  
#16 Posted : 24 February 2023 15:58:10(UTC)
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Today, February 24, marks 100 years exactly since Flying Scotsman entered service. Good timing by Marklin.

Regards
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Offline mbarreto  
#17 Posted : 24 February 2023 16:02:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post

......
I am surprised that the model shown isn't closer to a finished product, I was expecting a more or less immediate delivery like happened when they announced the DSB 'Surprise loco'. It seems maybe the management learnt something at the Toy Fair that caused them to bring the announcement forward, to pip another manufacturer (like Hornby or Bachmann) at announcing a version for the same reason - the centenary of the loco.



Agree that the announcement should be very close to launch as happened with the DSB steamer. And yes, something happened to make them announce it (probably) earlier than expected.


Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline mbarreto  
#18 Posted : 24 February 2023 16:44:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bryan Go to Quoted Post


Today, February 24, marks 100 years exactly since Flying Scotsman entered service. Good timing by Marklin.

Regards
David


Considering the other anniversary, although it is only the first, I will never forget the anniversary of the Flying Scotsman.
Good and bad anniversaries at the same time.



Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline The Crocodile  
#19 Posted : 24 February 2023 16:54:28(UTC)
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I've never considered a british loco before, but I do have to admit this one looks absolutely spectacular! To me, it looks like one of the most detailed locomotives Märklin has ever produced
C-track, temporary layout. I try to run my locos as much as possible:)
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Offline IanC  
#20 Posted : 24 February 2023 17:49:09(UTC)
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Bang goes the budget. I think it has been done as a tribute to our small elite band of members of the UK Stammtisch and MISTUK.
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Offline Goofy  
#21 Posted : 24 February 2023 17:52:50(UTC)
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I like it!
But it shows scale 1:87 and UK use scale 1:76.
Only track scale are same.
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Offline Ian555  
#22 Posted : 24 February 2023 18:52:28(UTC)
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Need to try and get one in Scotland.

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Offline AshleyH  
#23 Posted : 24 February 2023 18:56:45(UTC)
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Just got in from work and had to check the date as it seemed an April Fool.
It must be 60 years since Marklin produced its last and only UK loco, the Warship Diesel.
I never expected to see a British loco from them, fantastic.

I do hope they make appropriate coaching stock in time though….
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Offline danmarklinman  
#24 Posted : 24 February 2023 20:03:15(UTC)
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I’ve ordered one. Almost wet myself when I saw it 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Personally I think they would be mad not to produce, either BR Mk1 type, Pullman or the LNER teak coaches. Probably Pullman, as I think the USA tour had some Pullman coaches.
Maybe this is the start of something special. A Marklin British HO range. After all. Who wouldn’t want an A4 Pacific 🤣The tender is of course, the same as an A3 🙂
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Offline marklinist5999  
#25 Posted : 24 February 2023 20:05:38(UTC)
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Is this the first British model from Marklin since the LMS?
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Offline AshleyH  
#26 Posted : 24 February 2023 20:22:30(UTC)
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I think you are thinking of the Rivarossi LMS Royal Scot loco, I believe I am correct in saying that Marklin’s only previous British loco was the BR Class 42/43 Warship Diesel in green, produced in the 1960s
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Offline marklinist5999  
#27 Posted : 24 February 2023 20:53:55(UTC)
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No Ashley, Marklin made an LMS E 800in OO gague in 1938.= in marron red with a black front boiler section and stack. The motor brush screws are open on the side of the boiler just ahead of the cab. Ref. page 100 of the model railroaders catalogue by Kalmbach books and Simon Schuster publishing. Copyright 1991.New York, London, Toronto, Sydney, Tokyo, Singapoer printing. Authors; Melinda Corey and Geotge Ocha. Fwd. by Bruce Metcalf, A. C. Kalmbach memorial library, and National model railroad ass. inc.
Also a photo on the back cover.
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Offline steventrain  
#28 Posted : 24 February 2023 21:02:14(UTC)
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Have a word with local model about order one mine tomorrow.
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Offline xxup  
#29 Posted : 24 February 2023 21:30:18(UTC)
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I would not get too hung up on the wagon set. In Australia, I am pretty sure that it pulled NSW (New South Wales) and Victorian passenger wagons while it was in Australia. It is a museum loco, which means that it can be in any era (except I and II). So, I am off to find some H0 NSW rolling stock that looks like the stuff in this article -> https://www.thnsw.com.au...ng-scotsman-in-australia

I am pretty sure that Kimball, who sometimes treads on the dark side (two rail), can provide good information about the wagon classes that were pulled by the Scotsman down here.
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Offline mrmarklin  
#30 Posted : 24 February 2023 22:36:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
I will go for this one!
It s impressive the time it was announced as I was thinking in a Hornby alternative (2 rails) for the Flying Scotsman.
Perfect synchronized announcement with my wish :-) Almost unbelievable.

Edit: and it is H0, not 00 according to the specifications. I don't know how 2 rails 00 people will look at this.

Regards,
Miguel


I have one on the way!Cool

Hopefully Marklin will produce rolling stock. But if not I would still try some Hornby 1:76. Remember the loading gauge in the UK is less than on the Continent and they might not look half bad because made smaller compared to German rolling stock..Mellow

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Offline danmarklinman  
#31 Posted : 24 February 2023 22:43:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
I would not get too hung up on the wagon set. In Australia, I am pretty sure that it pulled NSW (New South Wales) and Victorian passenger wagons while it was in Australia. It is a museum loco, which means that it can be in any era (except I and II). So, I am off to find some H0 NSW rolling stock that looks like the stuff in this article -> https://www.thnsw.com.au...ng-scotsman-in-australia

I am pretty sure that Kimball, who sometimes treads on the dark side (two rail), can provide good information about the wagon classes that were pulled by the Scotsman down here.


Also, during the last days of steam. The A3 locomotives did also pull goods trains. So I can use it with my British loading gauge ho wagons, of which I now have a few in era 3-4. There’s at least six different designs with even more in development. The only thing missing is a BR brake van.
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Offline mbarreto  
#32 Posted : 24 February 2023 22:57:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mrmarklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
I will go for this one!
It s impressive the time it was announced as I was thinking in a Hornby alternative (2 rails) for the Flying Scotsman.
Perfect synchronized announcement with my wish :-) Almost unbelievable.

Edit: and it is H0, not 00 according to the specifications. I don't know how 2 rails 00 people will look at this.

Regards,
Miguel


I have one on the way!Cool

Hopefully Marklin will produce rolling stock. But if not I would still try some Hornby 1:76. Remember the loading gauge in the UK is less than on the Continent and they might not look half bad because made smaller compared to German rolling stock..Mellow



I am curious to see how it compares to the continental Europe trains, although in the video it doesn't seem to look much of a difference...


Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#33 Posted : 25 February 2023 00:31:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

I am curious to see how it compares to the continental Europe trains, although in the video it doesn't seem to look much of a difference...


It is about 12% as a linear dimension, so about 1/8 smaller than OO.

I will be interested to see how it looks with the Hornby coaches I have.

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Offline 7gauges  
#34 Posted : 25 February 2023 00:55:27(UTC)
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Seems pretty pricey for yet another chinese manufactured locomotive.
I don't know I have several of the fancy highly detailed chinese manufactured special editions and they seem flimsy and overpriced.
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Offline shannon  
#35 Posted : 25 February 2023 01:42:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH Go to Quoted Post
Just got in from work and had to check the date as it seemed an April Fool.
It must be 60 years since Marklin produced its last and only UK loco, the Warship Diesel.
I never expected to see a British loco from them, fantastic.

I do hope they make appropriate coaching stock in time though….


Don't forget Harry Potter startset

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Offline AshleyH  
#36 Posted : 25 February 2023 05:13:06(UTC)
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Yes, but I think the Harry Potter loco, coaches, and the Thomas range were not really Marklin products, but were Hornby plastic OO tooling modified with Marklin couplers and to work with 3 Rail.

Incidentally, to the comment further above about Made in China, how do we know the country of origin yet? Certainly all my recent Made in China locos are just perfect anyway. The only one I had trouble with was my 37521 Seetal Crock, and that is nearly 2 decades ago. Mine is still in bits awaiting a rebuild with the new chassis parts I bought over two years ago, one day…🥴
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#37 Posted : 25 February 2023 06:25:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH Go to Quoted Post
Yes, but I think the Harry Potter loco, coaches, and the Thomas range were not really Marklin products, but were Hornby plastic OO tooling modified with Marklin couplers and to work with 3 Rail.

Incidentally, to the comment further above about Made in China, how do we know the country of origin yet? Certainly all my recent Made in China locos are just perfect anyway. The only one I had trouble with was my 37521 Seetal Crock, and that is nearly 2 decades ago. Mine is still in bits awaiting a rebuild with the new chassis parts I bought over two years ago, one day…🥴


Bachman, not Hornby, but you are right: the last British items are not 100% Märklin.
You had the Harry Potter train, as well as the Thomas start set and additional Percy the little green locomotive.

Regarding the Flying Scotsman, it is indeed pure speculation to talk about being manufactured in China. But I wouldn’t be surprised. All this has been debated long ago. There are sufficient topics about that on the forum. Let’s not pollute the subject here with this.

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Offline Goofy  
#38 Posted : 25 February 2023 07:24:10(UTC)
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Regarding the Flying Scotsman, it is indeed pure speculation to talk about being manufactured in China. But I wouldn’t be surprised. All this has been debated long ago. There are sufficient topics about that on the forum. Let’s not pollute the subject here with this.

A.


Why not?
If Flying Scotsman are made in China the prices of the model are not fair.
The scale of the model must be 1:76 since in UK they use it.
The prototype in UK are bigger than in Europe.
This next side of the same scale of the track.
If Märklin present new model made in China i wonder if model railer are ready to pay lot of the model that is not correct in the scale too?

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Offline hxmiesa  
#39 Posted : 25 February 2023 09:42:05(UTC)
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I am puzzled by this one.
How can it be feasible to do a 1:87 (announcement clearly states this!) version of this one??? I dont think there is any running stock to put behind it...
Yet, many of you guys say that you will order it. What gives???
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#40 Posted : 25 February 2023 12:02:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post


Regarding the Flying Scotsman, it is indeed pure speculation to talk about being manufactured in China. But I wouldn’t be surprised. All this has been debated long ago. There are sufficient topics about that on the forum. Let’s not pollute the subject here with this.

A.


Why not?
If Flying Scotsman are made in China the prices of the model are not fair.


What is unfair about it being made in China? There are plenty of excellent items made in China, just as there are plenty of rubbish items made in China.

The price of the model is probably quite fair considering the recent rises in costs of materials and components, even if made in China. We know many, if not all, of the Surprise Locos have been made in China, under the supervision of a well respected South Korean manufacturer, that is well known for producing quality brass models of US prototypes. Go back through the archives of this forum to the discussion of the original S2/6 which was the first Surprise Model.

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post

The scale of the model must be 1:76 since in UK they use it.


There are people who model British prototype in 1:87, so this Flying Scotsman doesn't need to be 1:76.

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post

The prototype in UK are bigger than in Europe.


This is plain nonsense. The British loading gauge is smaller than the Continental loading gauge.

Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post

This next side of the same scale of the track.
If Märklin present new model made in China i wonder if model railer are ready to pay lot of the model that is not correct in the scale too?


Marklin will not have a problem selling these if past Surprise Locos are anything to go by. The number of reports I have seen of people saying "already ordered" suggest that there will not be a big enough production run to fill all the orders.



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Offline kimballthurlow  
#41 Posted : 25 February 2023 12:36:18(UTC)
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I wish to focus on the engineering capability of the Märklin model regardless of where it is made. Perhaps we can appreciate the excellence of the Märklin mechanisms and features above any competition regardless of scale.
That said, scale is of little importance.
Many of us have models that range from and through 1:8, 1:12, 1:16, 1:18, 1:35, 1:43, 1:48, 1:64, 1:72, 1:76, 1:82, 1:87, 1:96, 1:100, and 1:120. All these models are made to a different scale for a reason. Sometimes the reason may not be apparent.
Hornby (who compete with Märklin through their continental brands Arnold, Electrotren, Jouef and Rivarossi) have just released English TT models at 1:120 when their traditional TT was 1:100. So they are hoping to create a new market. Perhaps Märklin hope to see a new market for English HO 1:87.
The alternative is that they opportunistically hope for Flying Scotsman 1:87 sales in both 3 rail and Trix versions across many countries for a profit. And perhaps leave it at that.
Regardless I think Märklin know what they are doing.

Did I hear in the German video there is a light inside the tender corridor just like the real one?
The video suggests that the loco can run with the recently announced Edelweiss coaches which are of a similar vintage. After all model railways can be about imagining, not just orthodoxy. These models in whatever form or presentation can make us smile!
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline bph  
#42 Posted : 25 February 2023 13:24:43(UTC)
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and what about the minimum operating radius ? can't see that they have written anything about it, so can we assume 360mm is ok?
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#43 Posted : 25 February 2023 13:24:59(UTC)
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Well, the discounting is underway.

Hunerbein are showing 10% ...

Modellbahn-Kramm are showing 11.72% ...

Modellbahnshop-Lippe are showing 40 Euro off ...

And the prospect is here (English)

Other languages at https://www.maerklin.de/de/lp/2023/flying-scotsman

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#44 Posted : 25 February 2023 14:58:15(UTC)
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I may be more tempted by the "Mallard"
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#45 Posted : 25 February 2023 15:18:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Well, the discounting is underway.

Hunerbein are showing 10% ...

Modellbahn-Kramm are showing 11.72% ...

Modellbahnshop-Lippe are showing 40 Euro off ...

And the prospect is here (English)

Other languages at https://www.maerklin.de/de/lp/2023/flying-scotsman



Check out Rails of Sheffield available to preorder Marklin/Trix with 10% discount.


RAILS OF SHEFFIELD
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline mbarreto  
#46 Posted : 25 February 2023 16:17:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
I may be more tempted by the "Mallard"


I also wish that one, but better with some time between them for it to be inside budget.
The Mallard for what it achieved and other Gresley A4. I prefer the A4 in color blue oil more than the lighter blue of the Mallard.
The Flying Scotsman was and is on top of my wishes anyway and now it is the time for it :-)

Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline franciscohg  
#47 Posted : 25 February 2023 18:49:43(UTC)
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Well, i did order one,it seems to be a nice h0 machine. if it was announced in 00 i would certainly not ordered it.
If you want to sell a locomotive worldwide there would be a nonsense to make it in scale that is mainly used in UK.
They main market of Marklin still is Germany, i dont know how popular 00 scale is there.
I am sure it will be a best seller, chinese or not. So far i am very happy with chinese surprise models.
Regards
UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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Offline Marklineisenbahn  
#48 Posted : 25 February 2023 22:07:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Well, i did order one,it seems to be a nice h0 machine. if it was announced in 00 i would certainly not ordered it.
If you want to sell a locomotive worldwide there would be a nonsense to make it in scale that is mainly used in UK.
They main market of Marklin still is Germany, i dont know how popular 00 scale is there.
I am sure it will be a best seller, chinese or not. So far i am very happy with chinese surprise models.
Regards


Hi Dreileiters , Hallo Francisco,
I agree with you Francisco Flying Scotsman A3 will be good looking consist with Edelweiss set.
On pair with French class 231 , Baden IVH and Austrian CL 310 so My A3 is on order and I would have all corners covered for CIWL run…
Btw:How is your BR10 running… ?
Regards,
Märklineisenbahn
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Offline Mman  
#49 Posted : 25 February 2023 22:55:35(UTC)
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There are always the Fleischmann Bulleid H0 coaches and I would rather see a Southern Merchant Navy than LNER stuff, but I get the anniversary angle.
Mallard broke after its high speed run (downhill) and therefore some consider any record null and void.
A3s are interesting looking locos certainly whilst A4s are a bit dull.
ChrisG
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#50 Posted : 26 February 2023 00:35:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mman Go to Quoted Post
There are always the Fleischmann Bulleid H0 coaches and I would rather see a Southern Merchant Navy than LNER stuff, but I get the anniversary angle.


Ooooh yes please, especially if it is New Zealand Line ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

I have the Hornby model in the Southern Belle Hornby set, and it so happens that one of the Pullman coaches in that set carries the name of one of my sisters ...

Originally Posted by: Mman Go to Quoted Post

Mallard broke after its high speed run (downhill) and therefore some consider any record null and void.


I always get the feeling that the record should be void because it was running down hill at the time of setting it. I don't think the Br05 was running downhill when it set the record that Mallard broke.
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