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Offline Timnomads  
#1 Posted : 07 October 2021 12:26:09(UTC)
Timnomads

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Hi All

I have been reading in the marklin Magazine about the new Austrian Crocodile 39991 Drool

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It comes in green, but I would like it OBBs red livery

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Do you think Marklin will produce it Red in 2022 or 2023 as they have all the tooling they just have to change the decor ??

Tim
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 07 October 2021 12:33:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
I have been reading in the marklin Magazine about the new Austrian Crocodile 39991 Drool
39990 and 39991 are both German crocodiles.
Even in ÖBB livery they still are German crocodiles for me.

Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Do you think Marklin will produce it Red in 2022 or 2023 as they have all the tooling they just have to change the decor?
The ÖBB version has two front windows in the cab while the German versions have three windows. The lamps at the front are also different.
So it is not just a change of livery, they have to make a form variation. I'm sure they will have planned both moulds and ÖBB liveries will arrive sooner or later.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Timnomads  
#3 Posted : 07 October 2021 13:45:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
I have been reading in the marklin Magazine about the new Austrian Crocodile 39991 Drool
39990 and 39991 are both German crocodiles.
Even in ÖBB livery they still are German crocodiles for me.

Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Do you think Marklin will produce it Red in 2022 or 2023 as they have all the tooling they just have to change the decor?
The ÖBB version has two front windows in the cab while the German versions have three windows. The lamps at the front are also different.
So it is not just a change of livery, they have to make a form variation. I'm sure they will have planned both moulds and ÖBB liveries will arrive sooner or later.


One of the reasons I like it in red , is that when I passed through Innsbruck I saw one of these in red on the turntable in the loco depot. Once seen never forgotten
Tim
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Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 07 October 2021 13:55:55(UTC)
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I wouldn't call them ÖBB Crocodiles, a.) the real Austrian crocodile is either a Rh 1100, Rh 1089 or a Rh 1189 which Märklin has produced recently (39089)., obvious the German BR 194 was referred to a German crocodile, but the real Austrian Crocodile is much closer related to the Swiss Crocodile.
So I hope in future, modellers will refer it to the proper Austrian Crocodile and I take my hat of for Märklin to produce such a model, Roco has produced one in different versions from orange, grey, green, darker green and brown.

Austrian Crocodile.jpg

regards.,

John
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Offline river6109  
#5 Posted : 07 October 2021 14:24:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
I have been reading in the marklin Magazine about the new Austrian Crocodile 39991 Drool
39990 and 39991 are both German crocodiles.
Even in ÖBB livery they still are German crocodiles for me.

Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Do you think Marklin will produce it Red in 2022 or 2023 as they have all the tooling they just have to change the decor?
The ÖBB version has two front windows in the cab while the German versions have three windows. The lamps at the front are also different.
So it is not just a change of livery, they have to make a form variation. I'm sure they will have planned both moulds and ÖBB liveries will arrive sooner or later.

Some of the early version of the DB 194 which either stayed in Austria or were delivered to Austria after the war, had 3 windows which was later changed to 2 front windows.

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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 07 October 2021 14:31:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the early version of the DB 194 which either stayed in Austria or were delivered to Austria after the war, had 3 windows which was later changed to 2 front windows.
Were there any red ones with three windows?

Regards
Tom
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Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 07 October 2021 15:26:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the early version of the DB 194 which either stayed in Austria or were delivered to Austria after the war, had 3 windows which was later changed to 2 front windows.
Were there any red ones with three windows?



I think there was Rh 1020.02 (orange)
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