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Offline Rocca  
#1 Posted : 03 September 2021 17:22:17(UTC)
Rocca

Italy   
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC)
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Dear Märklin Friends,
This oldest version of the 5112 uncoupling track section, has only one wire (black color), which has to be connected to L socket of a Märklin Trafo for uncoupling. Does somebody know, please, how (i mean with what) it was correctly managed in a Layout in the early '50?. Thank you very much for any advice!
Best regards
Stefano Rocca
Offline DaleSchultz  
#2 Posted : 03 September 2021 20:39:46(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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I think the only option is a switch between the black wire and the L terminal.
When the switch is closed (E.g. with a push button) then the current will flow through the wire, through the coil (and thus actuate the uncoupler) and then to the ground of the track.
Dale
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Offline Rocca  
#3 Posted : 03 September 2021 21:44:05(UTC)
Rocca

Italy   
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC)
Posts: 617
Dear Dale, thank you so so much for your suggestion. I only thought it was existing, maybe, a special switcher of those ages, that would make it possible, without overloading the uncoupling switch. Thank you so so much for the advice!
Best regards
Stefano Rocca



Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
I think the only option is a switch between the black wire and the L terminal.
When the switch is closed (E.g. with a push button) then the current will flow through the wire, through the coil (and thus actuate the uncoupler) and then to the ground of the track.


Offline Rocca  
#4 Posted : 03 September 2021 21:53:58(UTC)
Rocca

Italy   
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC)
Posts: 617
Dear Dale, thank you so so much for your suggestion. I only thought it was existing, maybe, a special switcher of those ages, that would make it possible, without overloading the uncoupling switch. Thank you so so much for the advice!
Best regards
Stefano Rocca



Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
I think the only option is a switch between the black wire and the L terminal.
When the switch is closed (E.g. with a push button) then the current will flow through the wire, through the coil (and thus actuate the uncoupler) and then to the ground of the track.


Offline JohnjeanB  
#5 Posted : 04 September 2021 15:16:01(UTC)
JohnjeanB

France   
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,115
Location: Paris, France
Hi Stefano
The black wire dates back of 1950 or earlier. At the same time transformers were delivering 16 V for lamps and 20 V for solenoids. So the black wire goes to the 20 VAC.
Cat Marklin 1950 FR.pdf (5,034kb) downloaded 17 time(s).
Look especially at pages 18 and 19 (transformer outputs): Red for track 7 to 12 VAC), Yellow for lights (16 VAC) and Green for Solenoïds (20VAC)
Operation by "Stellpults" Control boxes 474/4 (4 buttons) or 474/8B (8 buttons with back lighting) See page 35.
Cheers
Jean
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