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Offline Uwe  
#1 Posted : 06 October 2020 01:33:18(UTC)
Uwe

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Hello,

I'm looking for which cars, passenger or freight, set or individual, that go with this locomotive. It's Märklin item number 3037; from the early 1960's. So I believe it is era III. Thanks in advance.

Uwe

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 06 October 2020 02:52:17(UTC)
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You could create a unit train pulling coal or ore hopper cars, or from any type of hopper car. I use my 1 Gauge green BR140 to pull coal hopper wagons. Marklin 4624 high capacity wagons are suitable.

Another suggestion might be tank wagon trains or container trains.

I suggest you look for E40 / BR140 pictures on the net to see what they are pulling.

One picture I've seen shows them pulling a train of auto transport wagons.

You could start by looking at this site

https://trainspo.com/model/541/
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Offline foumaro  
#3 Posted : 06 October 2020 05:40:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
You could create a unit train pulling coal or ore hopper cars, or from any type of hopper car. I use my 1 Gauge green BR140 to pull coal hopper wagons. Marklin 4624 high capacity wagons are suitable.

Another suggestion might be tank wagon trains or container trains.

I suggest you look for E40 / BR140 pictures on the net to see what they are pulling.

One picture I've seen shows them pulling a train of auto transport wagons.

You could start by looking at this site

https://trainspo.com/model/541/


ThumpUp
Offline hxmiesa  
#4 Posted : 06 October 2020 08:06:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Another suggestion might be tank wagon trains or container trains.
I suggest you look for E40 / BR140 pictures on the net to see what they are pulling.
One picture I've seen shows them pulling a train of auto transport wagons.
You could start by looking at this site
https://trainspo.com/model/541/

Nooo!
The OP has an E41. The smallest of the einheits electric. It would definetly NOT haul long heavy unit trains!
On the other hand, Uwe is in luck, as the E41 series has been used to pull almost everything. Both freight and passengers.
But it should probably be shorter trains.
I would use it for close commuter traffic, like Silberlingen or Umbauwagen. Also shorter D-zug can be pulled with this one...
Any kind of mixed local freight is also fine!
You really have a wide variety of options here, so no specific waggons suggestion is needed :-p
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
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Offline Carim  
#5 Posted : 06 October 2020 10:16:53(UTC)
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This link will give you some info about the loco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Class_E_41 , then you can decide what type of train you want to run with it. However, that's only if you want to be prototypical; otherwise follow "Rule No.1" - it's my layout and I'll do what I like. BigGrin

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Offline mmrcnzjohn  
#6 Posted : 06 October 2020 11:18:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
You could create a unit train pulling coal or ore hopper cars, or from any type of hopper car. I use my 1 Gauge green BR140 to pull coal hopper wagons. Marklin 4624 high capacity wagons are suitable.

Another suggestion might be tank wagon trains or container trains.

I suggest you look for E40 / BR140 pictures on the net to see what they are pulling.

One picture I've seen shows them pulling a train of auto transport wagons.

You could start by looking at this site

https://trainspo.com/model/541/


And the hopper wagons are nicely weathered, even if I do say so myself.

Perhaps its time to do some light weathering on the loco????????


Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 06 October 2020 11:46:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mmrcnzjohn Go to Quoted Post
And the hopper wagons are nicely weathered, even if I do say so myself.


There's another 3 to be done.....Wink

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Offline mmrcnzjohn  
#8 Posted : 06 October 2020 12:12:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mmrcnzjohn Go to Quoted Post
And the hopper wagons are nicely weathered, even if I do say so myself.


There's another 3 to be done.....Wink



did you buy some more at the weekend


Offline PJMärklin  
#9 Posted : 06 October 2020 14:18:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Uwe Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
I'm looking for which cars, passenger or freight, set or individual that go with this locomotive. It's Märklin item number 3037; from the early 1960's. So I believe it is era III. Thanks in advance.Uwe



Hello Uwe,BigGrin

A nice locomotive you have there ThumpUp . As you say, 3037.1 , produced (from Koll's) 1960-1968 .

I was rather late into Märklin (1983) but in my small collection I have the 3037.2 (1969-1976) seen here
pulling Umbauwagen (noted in Henrik's post #4 as a likely consist):

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What was pulled by the original E 41's might probably only be truly verified by images, but many of the
good folk on this forum may have reliable non-image information.

As you no doubt know, the E41 it seems, was built 1956-1971 and after the DB renumbering of 1968
became known as the BR 141.

There followed, in due course, livery changes from the original greens (of your loco) and isochronous
blues, then to the ocean blue/beige :

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also S-Bahn colours and then later orient red and traffic red.

I found it difficult to find historical images of actual original E 41's with their trains.
Most available images are clearly more in our contemporary period, with museum locos :

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So, may I ask (at risk of being a "rivet-counter" Laugh), do images of what the BR 141's pulled remain a
valid answer for your posted enquiry for E 41's ? ... probably? ... or are only the consists pulled during
1956-1968 valid ? Confused

One can find many images of eclectic consists pulled by the BR 141's as the successive
appellation of the E 41's.

Often in earlier BR 141 times Silberlingen (and Umbauwagen as above) as
already pointed out by Henrik :

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And later in ocean blue/beige (note we still have the baggage car in this train historically
immediately behind the locomotive !) :

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and more colourful :

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Including push-pull S-Bahn livery :

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and other oddments :

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Even in interesting assortments (granted probably museum railfan events):

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And whilst the loco was best known as a passenger locomotive, as some esteemed members of this
great forum have already noted, occasionally one may find the BR 141 as a freight locomotive :

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So, Uwe, it would seem (as in Cole Porter's lyric) "anything goes" !!Laugh

Enjoy your E 41 !!Smile

Regards,

PJ

Oops, I do hope that in my enthusiasm this post has not been too long ! Blushing mea culpa !! OhMyGod

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 06 October 2020 17:50:42(UTC)
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As others have said, 'anything goes' ... Blink Blushing BigGrin

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 06 October 2020 21:38:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mmrcnzjohn Go to Quoted Post
..did you buy some more at the weekend


Yes, but they are Langer Heinrich ore cars. Gotta figure out how to put a coal load into them without destroying the ore load. I have been able to slip a piece of thin cardboard over the top of the ore load to which I can glue some coal.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#12 Posted : 06 October 2020 22:00:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Any kind of mixed local freight is also fine!
You really have a wide variety of options here, so no specific waggons suggestion is needed :-p


So you could probably use a mix of any of the freight cars listed in a 1960's / 1970's era catalog.

The 1980 catalog has a chart of various locos and what coaches / wagons can be used with that loco.

Unfortunately 1980 was the first year there was no 3037 in the catalog, so there's nothing listed for it in those charts.
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Offline hxmiesa  
#13 Posted : 07 October 2020 08:11:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post
And whilst the loco was best known as a passenger locomotive, as some esteemed members of this
great forum have already noted, occasionally one may find the BR 141 as a freight locomotive :

While it is true that the CONCEPT for the lok was for "nahverkehr" of passengers, according to wiki.de it was used in freights right from the beginning. Especially on branchlines.
Because of its reduced axle-load of 15t, it was king of the branchlines. It could move schnellzüge and D-züge with up to 120km/h, Already in the 1950´ies!

Quote:
Oops, I do hope that in my enthusiasm this post has not been too long ! Blushing mea culpa !! OhMyGod

Not at all. Thanks for the nice photos!
I too, am very enthusiastic about this lok. I have 2 of them; A Piko in green, and an old Märklin which was originally beige/blue, but is now beautifully painted in blue, with new added electrical details on the roof (instead of the crude details molded directly onto the shell). This model is nearing completion, as the decals from Germany has arrived! Drool


Edit: Max speed was of course 120km/h. Corrected!
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
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Offline H0  
#14 Posted : 07 October 2020 08:41:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
It could move schnellzüge and D-züge with up to 140km/h, Already in the 1950´ies!
According to Wikipedia the maximum speed was 120 km/h. The first batches were delivered in blue as they were considered "fast" in the '50s. Later batches were green coz 120 km/h were considered "slow" at that time.
The low axle weight means it can run any train on branch lines. But branch line trains will also have low axle weights. Heavy freight trains ran on main lines and then the 140/139/150 would be better choices.
Both green and blue locos were used for all sorts of trains. Generally blue locos are associated with passenger trains and green locos with freight trains, but usage does not depend on colour. Colour depended on maximum speed and typical usage was related to maximum speed.

Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline Uwe  
#15 Posted : 07 October 2020 21:35:57(UTC)
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To all: Thanks very much. This was very helpful.
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