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Offline Br502362  
#1 Posted : 16 April 2020 07:32:19(UTC)
Br502362


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Hi,

My old CE800 is looking really bad with paint peeling off so I will repaint it.
But I can't find right green color. Does anybody know what it is?

Painting will be done with airbrush.

3001a.jpg

Cheers

Åke
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Offline river6109  
#2 Posted : 04 June 2020 12:25:19(UTC)
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Offline skeeterbuck  
#3 Posted : 04 June 2020 12:55:40(UTC)
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I would plan on stripping all the old paint off to get a professional looking factory like finish.

Before you start, clean and area of the paint still remaining to get an accurate shade of the original paint. Match as closely as you can to currently available quality hobby paint such as Tamiya or Mr. Hobby Color. Being green is a plus because of the many military subjects that these paints are designed are green. (mainly armor tanks & airplanes)

Both of these companies make additives that you can custom mix to get the proper finish on the paint (satin). Take some good close up pics to use as reference showing the paint finish because it will be near impossible to remember exactly after you've stripped all the paint off. I also recommend that you use a little "retarder" when you airbrush the paint to slow down the drying and give the paint to level out for a even finish. Also, since the original plastic is black, I would apply a black primer so that in the future if the paint would get chipped for an accident etc., it will still show black underneath.

Good luck!
Chuck
Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 04 June 2020 13:11:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

My old CE800 is looking really bad with paint peeling off so I will repaint it.
But I can't find right green color. Does anybody know what it is?

Painting will be done with airbrush.

Cheers

Åke


Depends on the year it was built. Till about 1957 RAL 6007 flaschengrün, then RAL 6020 chromoxidgrün.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAL-Eisenbahnfarben

https://tischbahn.de/gut...-lack-br-e63-ceb8003002/

https://tischbahn.de/arb...e63-ce800ceb80030013002/

http://www.tischeisenbahn.de/Restauri/CEB800.htm

https://ttn-shop.com/farben.php

By Modellbau Wiki the CE800 was built till 1956, so it should be in flaschengrün RAL 6007.

http://www.modellbau-wiki.de/wiki/DR-Baureihe_E_63

Make your own choice.

Even Lokmuseum only says dark green. So I would go with the Flaschengrün RAL 6007.

https://www.lokmuseum.de...2063&Seite=&SID=

Here you find a detailed description of the history CE800 via E 63 to BR 163

http://www.maerklin-samm...omotiven/03001/03001.htm

Down the page all colours once used for a E 63 are shown too.
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Offline Br502362  
#5 Posted : 04 June 2020 15:09:42(UTC)
Br502362


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Posts: 606
Location: Finland
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

My old CE800 is looking really bad with paint peeling off so I will repaint it.
But I can't find right green color. Does anybody know what it is?

Painting will be done with airbrush.

Cheers

Åke


Depends on the year it was built. Till about 1957 RAL 6007 flaschengrün, then RAL 6020 chromoxidgrün.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAL-Eisenbahnfarben

https://tischbahn.de/gut...-lack-br-e63-ceb8003002/

https://tischbahn.de/arb...e63-ce800ceb80030013002/

http://www.tischeisenbahn.de/Restauri/CEB800.htm

https://ttn-shop.com/farben.php

By Modellbau Wiki the CE800 was built till 1956, so it should be in flaschengrün RAL 6007.

http://www.modellbau-wiki.de/wiki/DR-Baureihe_E_63

Make your own choice.

Even Lokmuseum only says dark green. So I would go with the Flaschengrün RAL 6007.

https://www.lokmuseum.de...2063&Seite=&SID=

Here you find a detailed description of the history CE800 via E 63 to BR 163

http://www.maerklin-samm...omotiven/03001/03001.htm

Down the page all colours once used for a E 63 are shown too.



Thanks for the information.
I must visit my local hobby shop and buy Vallejo 71019 (RAL6007)paint and Vallejo satin varnish.
Then paint some plastic sheets and compare them to my loco.

Cheers

Åke

Offline JohnjeanB  
#6 Posted : 05 June 2020 22:08:40(UTC)
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Posts: 897
Location: Paris, France
Hi Åke
Having 3 of these locos I can confirm the plastic used for the body requires some "attention" (primer?) because the paint peels-off very easily (and I suspect it will again).
I like all these color versions of the CE800
- bottle green
- brown
- red
- some other shades to discover.
I have a preference for the original pantograph with 2 spaced pick-up bows. What about you?
Cheers
Jean
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