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NSben		#1 Posted : 28 June 2019 22:11:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/03/2018(UTC) Posts: 4		So I accidentally connected an anolog transformer to a digital layout. The mobile station (gen1) shows the shortage icon and a warning sign. It will not run anything and I am curious if there is an internal curcuit breaker or how i would fix this.
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RayF		#2 Posted : 29 June 2019 00:04:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I would say you've probably blown the output transistors on the Digital system. You need to get it looked at professionally.
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H0		#3 Posted : 29 June 2019 09:36:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		The MS1 will most likely still work as a slave for another MS1. If you have two MS1 in a master/slave setup, try swapping them. The output stage is in the master MS1. In your case it is most likely blown.
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NSben		#4 Posted : 30 June 2019 00:55:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/03/2018(UTC) Posts: 4		It appears from the responses that this is not an easy fix. Would buying a new MS fix the problem?
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Goofy		#5 Posted : 30 June 2019 01:03:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,017		MS1 are not producing by Märklin anymore time. To find a MS1 as the second hand are risk and there is no warranty that cover. I recommended you try to buy MS2 and the box 60116. Also power supply Märklin 66360.
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H0		#6 Posted : 01 July 2019 00:33:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Goofy To find a MS1 as the second hand are risk and there is no warranty that cover. Buy an MS1 from a professional German dealer and you will get one year of warranty. You get two years of warranty from private German sellers unless they exclude the warranty in their offer. Originally Posted by: NSben It appears from the responses that this is not an easy fix. Would buying a new MS fix the problem? The track box only contains a bridge rectifier. Since your MS1 shows a message, I assume the track box is not damaged. Buying a new MS1 should solve your problem. Most likely the old MS1 still works as a slave (requires adaptor 60124). Check MS1 prices and then decide if that's an option for you.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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river6109		#7 Posted : 01 July 2019 04:08:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,716 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, be careful when buying a MS1 because most of them had been faulty whereas the red knob doesn't function properly, I had about 6 exchanged from Märklin and there also had been 2 versions one with 1.2 and one with 2.0 A John
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H0		#8 Posted : 01 July 2019 08:40:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: river6109 Hi, be careful when buying a MS1 because most of them had been faulty whereas the red knob doesn't function properly I have quite a few MS1. One had to be replaced under warranty because the electronics had failed. I never had failures of the speed knob. BTW: I have a few MS2s, too. One of them had to be replaced under warranty because of display problems. So in my experience the MS2 failure rate is much higher than the MS1 failure rate. Originally Posted by: river6109 [...] and there also had been 2 versions one with 1.2 and one with 2.0 A They have either 1.2 A or 1.9 A. In starter sets they came with various power supplies ranging from 18 VA to 60 VA.
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Purellum		#9 Posted : 01 July 2019 09:03:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,504 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: H0 I never had failures of the speed knob. IIRC the speed knob problem could be fixed with a software update. Per.
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river6109		#10 Posted : 01 July 2019 16:29:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,716 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: H0 I never had failures of the speed knob. IIRC the speed knob problem could be fixed with a software update. Per. Even with the apparent update I still had problems with the speed knob., I don't know how many updates there have been. John
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Goofy		#11 Posted : 03 July 2019 09:26:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,017		Originally Posted by: H0 In starter sets they came with various power supplies ranging from 18 VA to 60 VA. Ahhh... You are writing Watt effect. Excellent!
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Purellum		#12 Posted : 03 July 2019 09:34:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,504 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Goofy Ahhh... You are writing Watt effect. No, he's writing VA, which is something different. Per. P.S: Are you deliberately trying to ruin every thread here, or are you just so proud of knowing nothing that you want everybody to know it ???
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mvd71		#13 Posted : 03 July 2019 11:10:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,720 Location: Auckland,		Originally Posted by: Purellum Originally Posted by: Goofy Ahhh... You are writing Watt effect. No, he's writing VA, which is something different. Per. P.S: Are you deliberately trying to ruin every thread here, or are you just so proud of knowing nothing that you want everybody to know it ??? Actually, I think he is making a joke by playing with the English language. It's actually quite funny. Well done goofy!
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Purellum		#14 Posted : 03 July 2019 11:50:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,504 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: mvd71 Actually, I think he is making a joke by playing with the English language. If you think so, you obviously haven't read the other threads, where he clearly demonstrates that he doesn't understand the difference between power and energy or Watt vs VA vs current. Here's a resent example, where every single post by Goofy is wrong, and yet he just continues: https://www.marklin-user...-max-power-output--Ideas Originally Posted by: mvd71 It's actually quite funny. Well done goofy! IMHO the only funny and well done about this, is how well he shows that he hasn't got a clue about the subject discussed. Per.
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