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michelvr		#1 Posted : 18 April 2019 14:36:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,287		Alright time for some comparisons. I have diesels and electric locomotives in my inventory and now I would like to start collecting steam locomotives. There's just one problem, the price! While at my dealer yesterday looking to by a steam locomotive I noticed that the average price is around the $500.00 mark. Some around the $400 mark and most past $600. My question to you is: is steam locomotives really worth that kind of money? Remember like any hobby or sports activity we alway find the money! So I just want to know the “I LOVE steam locomotives” viewpoint is it worth the money? Thank you! Edited by user 18 April 2019 18:15:09(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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mbarreto		#2 Posted : 18 April 2019 15:02:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		I have about 90% steamers, so I think they are worth the price difference. I think you must try to get them cheaper, maybe by buying used in ebay.de or new in a German dealer, like for example MSL.
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kiwiAlan		#3 Posted : 18 April 2019 20:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: michelvr Alright time for some comparisons. I have diesels and electric locomotives in my inventory and now I would like to start collecting steam locomotives. There's just one problem, the price! While at my dealer yesterday looking to by a steam locomotive I noticed that the average price is around the $500.00 mark. Some around the $400 mark and most past $600. My question to you is: is steam locomotives really worth that kind of money? Remember like any hobby or sports activity we alway find the money! So I just want to know the “I LOVE steam locomotives” viewpoint is it worth the money? Thank you! Grief, what locos are you looking at? That is the price realm of the SNCF 241A. Br24 3624x series are around 199 Euro to the high 200 Euro for the latest ones. The T3 Photographic Gray from Eurotrain (as in my avatar) is mid 200 Euro. There is currently a set with a black T3 with 4 goods wagons for mid 300 Euro. There are a whole range of smaller steam locos in a similar price range.


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michelvr		#4 Posted : 19 April 2019 01:10:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,287		Hello kiwiAlan, Grief is not even coming close, more like good grief! Have a look here; https://www.eurorailhobb...;ca=4&sc=HO&so=4 If my memory serves me right the Marklin SNCF 241A was in the $800.00 range! If any of our Canadian members purchased one please correct me if I’m wrong. I've never purchased from Europe so maybe that should change! Let’s see what happens. Cheers and Happy Easter! Michel


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jcrtrains		#5 Posted : 19 April 2019 02:26:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 597 Location: Toronto, Ontario		Steam is ok! Prices on the top items are a bit ouchy. BR 08 joined the flock recently - it was up there. Interestingly enough, it does not run as well as the Seetal Krok Mike ordered for me.

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TEEWolf		#6 Posted : 19 April 2019 02:26:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/06/2016(UTC) Posts: 2,465		Originally Posted by: michelvr Hello kiwiAlan, Grief is not even coming close, more like good grief! Have a look here; https://www.eurorailhobb...;ca=4&sc=HO&so=4 If my memory serves me right the Marklin SNCF 241A was in the $800.00 range! If any of our Canadian members purchased one please correct me if I’m wrong. I've never purchased from Europe so maybe that should change! Let’s see what happens. Cheers and Happy Easter! Michel Michel, a steamer is sooner or later a must. Whatever loco it will be does not matter. It only has to please you. Here you finde an overview by a German dealer. http://joes-modellbahnla...f08b03b/Categories/2/3/7 A must steamer for everybody in Northamerica shall be a Big Boy or a Challenger. Do not forget this year a renewed Big Boy shall be under fire first time since ages! A historic moment. Comparing North America with Europe you see, the US must not be expensive for buying. https://www.eurorailhobb...amp;so=4&stock=39912 http://joes-modellbahnla...15f08b03b/Products/39912 Buying at Joes you have to add 40 € shipping cost. Then the price will be 715 € is today 805 USD. Eurorailhobbies seems to be competative. Happy thinking about Eastern and a potpourri of all kinds of eggs. Cheers TEEWolf
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mike c		#7 Posted : 19 April 2019 03:23:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,898 Location: Montreal, QC		Not quite sure that this should be in the Loco Review topic. There is a whole range for steam locomotives, just like there is for electric locomotives and for diesels too. For US modellers, it is a decent time to buy from Europe, given the value of the greenback compared to the CHF and EUR. For Canadians, the drop in the value of the $CAD means that we have to be more careful when spending our money. The EUR is a little higher than in was a few years ago and the Swiss franc is up too. The big difference is that the USD is now about 30% higher against the loonie. Given the shipping costs, unless I can put together an order that is big enough to justify up to 50 EUR for shipping, it is often cheaper to source single or pairs of items in Canada or the USA. Regards Mike C

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river6109		#8 Posted : 19 April 2019 04:58:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,725 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I buy steam locos second hand from German dealers and have paid for an older type BR 44 Euro 99.00 + shipping (analog), I than convert them to digital with sound and other few extras and it may come to a total price of Euro 230.00. John
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mrmarklin		#9 Posted : 19 April 2019 05:48:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 895 Location: Burney, CA		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: michelvr Alright time for some comparisons. I have diesels and electric locomotives in my inventory and now I would like to start collecting steam locomotives. There's just one problem, the price! While at my dealer yesterday looking to by a steam locomotive I noticed that the average price is around the $500.00 mark. Some around the $400 mark and most past $600. My question to you is: is steam locomotives really worth that kind of money? Remember like any hobby or sports activity we alway find the money! So I just want to know the “I LOVE steam locomotives” viewpoint is it worth the money? Thank you! Grief, what locos are you looking at? That is the price realm of the SNCF 241A. Br24 3624x series are around 199 Euro to the high 200 Euro for the latest ones. The T3 Photographic Gray from Eurotrain (as in my avatar) is mid 200 Euro. There is currently a set with a black T3 with 4 goods wagons for mid 300 Euro. There are a whole range of smaller steam locos in a similar price range. There are a lot of great small Loks out there. My particular favorites are tank Loks. They’re great for smaller layouts with the typical Era 3 shorter freight and passenger cars. The used market has great Loks as well of all types. Streamers tend to be more expensive because a lot more detail goes along with them.
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TEEWolf		#10 Posted : 19 April 2019 19:04:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/06/2016(UTC) Posts: 2,465		Gentlemen, start your engine, please! And have fun.
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Jabez		#11 Posted : 21 April 2019 23:02:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 636 Location: Brussels		That's what I call a steam enthusiast. He could serve as a voice double for WC Fields.
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Mark_1602		#12 Posted : 22 April 2019 19:05:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 704 Location: Luxembourg		Originally Posted by: michelvr So I just want to know the “I LOVE steam locomotives” viewpoint is it worth the money? Thank you! Hi, It's only worth the money if you really feel passionate about this type of locos. I love vintage locos, and I've paid prices of over 1,000 euros for the most expensive items in my collection. That's a lot of money for an old loco ... As long as they're really original and near-mint, I have no regrets after the purchase. It all depends on how you feel. If you really want to have the latest new tooling mfx+/DCC models, just go for them within the limits of your budget. In case you don't want to spend that much money, you'd probably be happier with second-hand digital steam locos that are often sold at low prices, especially if they have no sound functions. There's one more thing to consider. Highly complex and detailed locos are more likely to have issues than older models, so you need to be prepared for that. Best regards, Mark
		Best regards, Mark I like Märklin items produced in the 1960s or early '70s, but also digital locos & current rolling stock.

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hxmiesa		#13 Posted : 25 April 2019 12:44:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,520 Location: Spain		Originally Posted by: michelvr Alright time for some comparisons. My question to you is: is steam locomotives really worth that kind of money? Remember like any hobby or sports activity we alway find the money! So I just want to know the “I LOVE steam locomotives” viewpoint is it worth the money? My very short answer is "yes". For each 2 modern electric/disel locs that I have, I wish today that I had saved the money and bought 1 steam loc.
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jerdenberg		#14 Posted : 25 April 2019 15:40:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,011 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		I suppose it is up to personal taste. The best way to see for yourself would be to visit a show/dealer/… where you can see different diesel and steam engines in action, I think. Personally, I am not favouring one over the other; of both species I like some and dislike/don't care about others. Jeroen
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rrf		#15 Posted : 25 April 2019 16:47:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA		Hello, My collection is ~50/50 Steam/Electric with only two diesel loks that I can think of. I would like to counter the thought that all steam loks are expensive. In fact some of my favorite steam loks fall in the $100 to $200 range. IMHO the BR81s and BR74s are awesome loks and great values. At just over $200 there is the BR24 and then of course there's the BR89 at less than $100, that I believe everyone needs to have at least one in their collection. My two pennies,
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