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Offline French_Fabrice  
#1 Posted : 14 February 2019 08:07:31(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Hello,

I just see that news yesterday.
After many years of successful work, the Littfinski DatenTechnik (LDT) company was sold.

For details, please see https://www.ldt-infocent...php?id=en:ldt-infocenter

Best
Fabrice
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Offline Danlake  
#2 Posted : 14 February 2019 10:08:39(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Thanks for links.

I am a great fan of the affordable and robust LDT products.

But it looks like it will hopefully be in good hands by being taken over by a similar specialist and German company.

Best Regards
Lasse
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Offline PMPeter  
#3 Posted : 14 February 2019 15:54:14(UTC)
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That's really too bad. I just received my latest order from LDT last week. Their service, whether responding to questions, honouring a warranty case, and order processing was always top notch. Hopefully this will continue under the new ownership.

Peter
Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 15 February 2019 01:48:29(UTC)
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This is the buying company

http://www.buehler-elect...de/english/en_index.html

pages in English available

Here is their shop

https://www.lsdigital-shop.de/

unfortunately not in English.

Has anybody heard about the products, digital devices from Buehler and LSdigital already?
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Offline Thewolf  
#5 Posted : 15 February 2019 14:25:52(UTC)
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Hi guysCool

It would be interesting to know the reason for the sale of LDT.

Is it for reasons of the owner's end of his career or is it for reasons of financial difficulties?

This may have implications for the future of LDT products.

Thewolf
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Offline Minok  
#6 Posted : 15 February 2019 19:28:56(UTC)
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Thewolf, I think Littfinski is just retiring at the end of his long career; with a private company run by founders, that's the inevitable result, the founder wants to retire, thus the company gets sold to someone for them to continue running it (maybe keeping the brand if they are smart, but sometimes rebranding everything after a few years into one brand). Mr Littfinski is around 66 years old if you take his 47 years of school, training and work added to 18 year age approximate start of such; time to step back and relax a bit; maybe spend days playing with his own trains, or just sit in the sun.
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Offline Thewolf  
#7 Posted : 15 February 2019 20:18:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Thewolf, I think Littfinski is just retiring at the end of his long career; with a private company run by founders, that's the inevitable result, the founder wants to retire, thus the company gets sold to someone for them to continue running it (maybe keeping the brand if they are smart, but sometimes rebranding everything after a few years into one brand). Mr Littfinski is around 66 years old if you take his 47 years of school, training and work added to 18 year age approximate start of such; time to step back and relax a bit; maybe spend days playing with his own trains, or just sit in the sun.


Thank you for your replyCool

If it is a retirement, as LDT products are excellent (no one will contradict me), I assume that the company's financial situation was excellent at the time of sale and that in the short and medium term LDT products will still be on sale.

As for the distant future, as a retired Belgian accountant, I can say that we can trust the very professional business sense of the Germans, and therefore the managers of the company that bought LDT.

Maybe in a few years, they will change the name of LDT but the LDT concept will remain.

I wouldn't have spoken like that if it were a Chinese company that would have bought the company

This is only what I think

Thewolf
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Offline Webmaster  
#8 Posted : 15 February 2019 20:23:40(UTC)
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Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles, even used in some Märklin models.
They likely have more financial strength than Mr Littfinski himself and I think it's a good choice of a retirement plan for Mr L.

I presume there has been some earlier cooperation between Bühler & LDT regarding production and such.
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Offline Purellum  
#9 Posted : 15 February 2019 21:28:22(UTC)
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Cool

Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles


I'm not sure it's the same Buehler; I've tried to Google without any result.

But I'm on bad and slow internet at the moment, so I could have missed the Buehler - Buehler connection. BigGrin

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Offline TEEWolf  
#10 Posted : 16 February 2019 01:10:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles


I'm not sure it's the same Buehler; I've tried to Google without any result.

But I'm on bad and slow internet at the moment, so I could have missed the Buehler - Buehler connection. BigGrin

Per.

Cool



Good morning Per,

you should have used my link in post #4 instead of Google. Smile

http://www.buehler-elect...de/english/en_index.html

Good night

TEEWolf

Cool
Offline kiwiAlan  
#11 Posted : 16 February 2019 18:26:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles


I'm not sure it's the same Buehler; I've tried to Google without any result.

But I'm on bad and slow internet at the moment, so I could have missed the Buehler - Buehler connection. BigGrin

Per.

Cool



Good morning Per,

you should have used my link in post #4 instead of Google. Smile

http://www.buehler-elect...de/english/en_index.html

Good night

TEEWolf

Cool



Looking through their web site I suspect they may have been doing the electronic assembly for LDT prior to the sale. It would certainly make sense for a small company like LDT to contract out the assembly of their printed circuit boards to a place like Buehler Electronic, putting them through solder reflow machines like they have brings production costs down dramatically.

Offline Purellum  
#12 Posted : 16 February 2019 21:15:15(UTC)
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Cool

Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles


I'm not sure it's the same Buehler; I've tried to Google without any result.

But I'm on bad and slow internet at the moment, so I could have missed the Buehler - Buehler connection. BigGrin

Per.

Cool



Good morning Per,

you should have used my link in post #4 instead of Google. Smile

http://www.buehler-elect...de/english/en_index.html

Good night

TEEWolf

Cool


I saw your link, and I used it; but I think you missed my point BigGrin

What I find, is that Buehler electronics who bought LDT is a small company from Fredersdorf,
while Buehler / Bühler Motors is a big ( worldwide ) company, with headquarters in Nuremberg.

What I'm saying, is that I'm not sure it's the same company.

There's also a "Bühler Holding AG" based in Switzerland, even bigger; I also don't know if they are related to the two other Bühlers............. Confused

Per.

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Offline TEEWolf  
#13 Posted : 17 February 2019 05:02:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

I saw your link, and I used it; but I think you missed my point BigGrin

What I find, is that Buehler electronics who bought LDT is a small company from Fredersdorf,
while Buehler / Bühler Motors is a big ( worldwide ) company, with headquarters in Nuremberg.

What I'm saying, is that I'm not sure it's the same company.

There's also a "Bühler Holding AG" based in Switzerland, even bigger; I also don't know if they are related to the two other Bühlers............. Confused

Per.

Cool


On the website of LDT starting page

https://www.ldt-infocent...php?id=de:ldt-infocenter

you see 2 guys shaking hands. It is Mr. Littfinski and Mr. Mörsdorf. At the website of Bühler introducing themself as a company you see a picture of Mr Mörsdorf again

http://www.buehler-elect...h/en_unternehmen_fr.html

I think this clears up and delete any confusion finally, which Bühler company bought LDT.BigGrin

Although Mr. Littfinski wrote before: "So habe ich Littfinski DatenTechnik (LDT) zum 1. Februar 2019 an die Firma Bühler electronic GmbH in Fredersdorf, bei Berlin, verkauft." (I sold Littfinski DatenTechnik (LDT) to Bühler electronic GmbH in Fredersdorf, near Berlin, on February 1, 2019.)

Bühler as a name is more often found in the South of Germany or probably even more in Switzerland. But LDT was sold to the only Bühler company in Fredersdorf-Vogelsdorf, which is a pretty small town close to the Prussian Berlin.Smile

Cheers

TEEWolf
Offline Purellum  
#14 Posted : 17 February 2019 19:34:40(UTC)
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Cool

Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
I think this clears up and delete any confusion finally, which Bühler company bought LDT.


There has never been any confusion regarding which Bühler / Buehler company bought LDT. Crying

My question was regarding Webmaster's comment, which I quoted, regarding the company "Bühler Motors":

Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Buehler are well known for eg DC mrr motors in our circles


Reading the questions before you answer might be a good idea. BigGrin

Per.

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