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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 14 January 2019 22:48:11(UTC)
steventrain

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I have returned the two locomotives 36431 and 36433 to Marklin for attention. Both have smoke did not came out as I fill distilled water.

Edited by user 14 March 2019 22:18:04(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/K-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy/Collection of old Marklin from 1950s.
Offline Elsleuth1  
#2 Posted : 15 January 2019 00:04:21(UTC)
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Do you mean the new locomotives used distilled water instead of oil?
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 15 January 2019 22:05:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Elsleuth1 Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean the new locomotives used distilled water instead of oil?


Yes, the new BR232 'Ludmilla's' use water instead of oil for 'smoke' generation.
Offline steventrain  
#4 Posted : 14 March 2019 22:17:14(UTC)
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Two locos back from Marklin repair service today after 8 weeks waiting for new parts.

Both have smoke much better big. Very happy with it.Smile
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/K-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy/Collection of old Marklin from 1950s.
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Offline SteamNut  
#5 Posted : 14 March 2019 22:44:33(UTC)
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I hope you have nothing on your layout that will rust - otherwise enjoy your new additions.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#6 Posted : 14 March 2019 23:03:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Elsleuth1 Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean the new locomotives used distilled water instead of oil?


LOL Oil? Oh no, never! And yes a big problem was, Märklin did this not mention into their manuals for these locos first. People filled in regular water and up to 80% of this steam blast pipes got ruined. That Steven's steam pipes failed is not the exception, it is the regular case. By the way Märklin has now a big - say discussion - with the producer of these steam pipes, who is paying for these guarantee cases. Because the producer can proof that the failure of these pipes were a result of not using distilled water.

Probabely also the reason why the new Insider V 320 does not have these magnificent pipes. Indeed really not nice from Märklin. For 430 € I have expected these steaming blast pipes in a V 320 too.
CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 15 March 2019 02:44:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SteamNut Go to Quoted Post
I hope you have nothing on your layout that will rust - otherwise enjoy your new additions.


this was my first thought to, over a period of time it must effect something, it doesn't matter whether it is distilled water, it is still water. if you have already humidity in your room why would you want to create more steam, I don't think Märklin has thought this through enough, especially with the middle contacts.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#8 Posted : 15 March 2019 15:28:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Elsleuth1 Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean the new locomotives used distilled water instead of oil?


LOL Oil? Oh no, never! And yes a big problem was, Märklin did this not mention into their manuals for these locos first. People filled in regular water and up to 80% of this steam blast pipes got ruined.


The requirement to use distilled water IS mentioned in the manuals - certainly in the manual of my yellow one.

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