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Offline klarijel  
#1 Posted : 01 December 2018 19:58:28(UTC)
klarijel


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Location: Croatia
Hello,
this is my first layout, size 1800*900 mm

Marklin c tracks, please if You have any suggestions ....
Advice how to make 3 trains to operate all together with decoder m 84 full automatic.

Regards from Croatia....

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Offline klarijel  
#2 Posted : 01 December 2018 20:13:08(UTC)
klarijel


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Location: Croatia
Forgot to say i have MS2...
Offline scraigen  
#3 Posted : 04 December 2018 20:57:01(UTC)
scraigen


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Posts: 299
Location: Sheffield,
Hi there,

Your baseboard size is certainly big enough to make an interesting first layout.

Looking at your initial plans the ramps between layers would be far too steep. Marklin recommend achieving a clearance of:

  • C/M Track - steam and diesel: 75mm over 12 pieces of track (2160mm)
  • C/M Track - electric locos with catenary: 105mm over 16 pieces of track (2880mm)
  • K Track - steam and diesel: 69mm over 12 pieces of track (2160mm)
  • K Track - electric locos with catenary: 99mm over 15 pieces of track (2700mm)


See:
More about clearance heights
Gradients on small layouts

It won't be easy to get a second level into the space you have available but it is possible, a solution to a flat layout is to keep all the track level but move the height of the landscape both above and below that level.

Good luck with it.

Stu
Must build something
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Offline mbarreto  
#4 Posted : 04 December 2018 21:09:17(UTC)
mbarreto

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My 2 cents:

If you want to use the 3 levels, I think the station area needs to be in the mid level.
Also maybe you need to have the mid level circuit a bit smaller, so it doesn't overlap with the extreme oval circuits. This way you probably need to raise the lower and the upper levels a bit more than half compared to the case where all 3 overlap. And I think this way it is possible to do it without difficulty.

You can also look at the impressive amount of solutions for small space that exist in this forum. Lots of switches and curves in really small space.

Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline klarijel  
#5 Posted : 06 December 2018 19:48:49(UTC)
klarijel


Joined: 26/03/2010(UTC)
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Location: Croatia
Hello
Thanks for sugestions, you tell that maximum bias should be 3,5 %?
Offline klarijel  
#6 Posted : 09 December 2018 21:09:40(UTC)
klarijel


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Location: Croatia
Hello,

like always is.... i little make it bigger...
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Offline mbarreto  
#7 Posted : 10 December 2018 10:31:48(UTC)
mbarreto

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On average I think 3,5% is good elevation percentage.

I will look better at your design later. I am thinking in a 3mx1m, so not much different in size. Only thing is I would like to add a layer as hidden yard and a turntable, but that's probably too much for such a small space.
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline klarijel  
#8 Posted : 10 December 2018 21:40:08(UTC)
klarijel


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Location: Croatia
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
On average I think 3,5% is good elevation percentage.

I will look better at your design later. I am thinking in a 3mx1m, so not much different in size. Only thing is I would like to add a layer as hidden yard and a turntable, but that's probably too much for such a small space.





Something like this??

Thanks
Offline mbarreto  
#9 Posted : 10 December 2018 23:10:06(UTC)
mbarreto

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Relative to the turntable and roundhouse, yes, that is the idea.
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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