Howdy,

Joined the forum after browsing around for quite a long time. Already introduced myself in another thread but thought I'd share some of the trouble I've been getting myself into lately

I came across a collector on eBay who had nearly everything. Boy were my eyes wide when I saw these trains. Description said everything was 100% original except for a few replicas. Boxes and everything.... Have some photos below to share. Going to cost me probably around 40.000 EUR in total but I hope too buy nearly everything he's got.

Kind Regards,

Brian

first up a passenger coach with the rare eagle. I don't know why the holes are all chewed up like that. this is a very rare coach. it's a great little gem!


and next an LNES loco in green. this thing is mint!


i don't know if these boxes are from Italy or Germany but they look great.


more locos but they look original to me?



this R 800 has the LNER stamps on it. look pretty nice huh? i bought her for 15.000 EUR

Edited by user 26 October 2018 13:50:17(UTC)  | Reason: Add more photos

Hi Brian,

I agree with Jean on this one. The LMS and LNER locos are commonly repainted and I believe that is the case here. All of these LMS and LNER locos appear to be repainted, except for perhaps the last HR 700 LMS loco. You can tell because the lacquer is not right as Marklin originally did it. The frames are also all clearly repainted. These replica LMS and LNER locos showed up on eBay DE from a professional artist for some years. The 351 F coach also looks like a replica - typically the fake ones have round holes and original has square holes. This one has square holes but they are cut out with little precision - Marklin would never have done this. It's difficult to say whether the eagle emblem is original or not. One can only compare with photos of an original.

The TW 800 appears to have undergone significant restoration - wheels, wires, pick-up shoes, frame either replaced or repainted. And the box is a replica - even the "8" on the label appears upside down?

Finally what you have also shown is an R 700 (S)LNER which in my opinion is a well done replica. The stamping is not accurate, and appears to be have been either painted or done by hand with a rubber stamp. You can tell because the thickness of the lettering is not always even or straight. As a final indicator the wear on the gold "stamp" is not consistent with the condition of the tender. This is rather speculative, but just my opinion.

Overall some great pieces, they do have value but not as originals with provenance and original boxes. But why not post here before buying next time?

Best,

Paul

I feel like I should suggest you to refrain from purchasing any of these stuff...

Brian, we all have been there getting exiting until you find out the locos aren't as original as it seems.
I'm glad you didn't pay for the trains and are able to walk awayfrom it, its a bit like fake paintings.

John