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Offline mike c  
#1 Posted : 15 May 2018 00:14:53(UTC)
mike c

Canada   
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 7,890
Location: Montreal, QC
I just received the Roco 76640 P&O Ferrymasters container car.
https://www.roco.cc/en/p...0-0-002002/products.html
I was surprised to find out that the container is just a shell, with no underside.
Unlike earlier containers in my collection (mostly 40 ft containers), the new 45' models look nice from afar but are rather disappointing up close.
I also noted that the new car seems to be lighter than my older 47106, 47110 and similar cars.

I have been thinking about the new Roco T-2000, but would like to know whether the containers are also just shells and also whether those containers have the same footings as other Roco 40 or 45 foot containers?
https://www.roco.cc/en/p...0-003001-0/products.html

Regards

Mike C
Offline river6109  
#2 Posted : 20 May 2018 12:48:57(UTC)
river6109

Australia   
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC)
Posts: 14,715
Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
Mike, its all done on the quite, manufacturers slowly reducing the weight of locos, carriages, reducing the number of rubber tyres.
I've noticed the other day a Märklin BR 216 with one older motor (drum collector) and the other one also with a drum collector but about half the size.

I think I've mentioned it before regarding a Roco loco from one model to another one it lost 120g which is a huge amount of weight in a 1:87 scale.
for the amount they charge I'm looking at Rockyrail, metal structure.

they used to show the weight of a loco under description (catalogue) but this has been waived.

John
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Offline mmervine  
#3 Posted : 20 May 2018 17:06:23(UTC)
mmervine

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Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,884
Location: Keene, NH
Mike-the Roco 45' containers have been that way for several years. My guess is that the Geest containers will be the same way. With that being said, I purchased a T2000 last year w/Crossrail 45' containers and they had a bottom, but didn't line up very well with the mounting locations.
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline mike c  
#4 Posted : 21 May 2018 16:14:37(UTC)
mike c

Canada   
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 7,890
Location: Montreal, QC
I have been hesitant about the Roco T-2000, because it initially appeared that the containers would be held in place by a new system using flipping slots/sockets, in the same manner as Kombimodell.
It then turned out that these would be used to affix an adapter which would then fit into the classic Roco slots. The end result was that the container appeared to sit way too high on the car, which was a deal killer for me.
I had a poor experience with my first order of ACME container cars and repeated problems with damage caused by Kombimodell's packaging.
I have heard some reports about the quality of finish on Rocky Rail models (mainly the paintwork on containers and truck trailers from China).
I guess my preferred solution would be more Hupac Sgns from Maerklin and a more varied option of containers...

Regards

Mike C

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