Hello all:

In view of the upcoming new version of this locomotive in DRG livery, I have tried to dig deeper into the history of this articulated locomotive. Neither the Märklin nor the Koll's catalogues contains sufficient information, as usual. The locomotive is supposed to have been manufactured in 1925 for use in mountainous regions in the south of Germany. But was this originally a Bavarian-made locomotive (Era 1)? There was once a MHI model (33292) in the nineties in brown livery, which Koll's describes as "Bayern/DRG". Was this the first edition of this locomotive? What is the difference between this "Bavarian" locomotive and the current E-91.9? Where does the "9" come from?

Any pictures will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Greetings,

Armando

Thank you, Guus. I checked this site and I found additional information on this model.
Armando

Hi Frostie, would you have a photo of any of those locomotives to post?
Thanks,
Armando

There is total 9 E91 model make by marklin since 1986.

http://www.bahn.hfkern.d...erklin/Dt_Loks_E191.html

Hi Hans,

Does this mean that it was the DRG and not the Bavarian administration which commissioned these locomotives in 1925? I don't remember exactly when Era II started. What was the original colour for theses locomotives? Does the current DRG model E-91.9 in the 2006 new items represent the original version?

Thanks!

Regards,

Armando

Armando,

sorry for not answering earlier. Please note that my original posting referred to the E 91.9 and NOT the normal E 91.

DRG was founded in 1920, but the complete take over of all aspects regarding the daily railroad business wasn't achieved until around 1925.

A catalogue containing all required locomotive types was set up in 1922, this contained a C'C' electric loco with side rod drive. The Bavarian Group Administration (Gruppenverwaltung Bayern), which in effect was the former Bavarian State Railway, first ordered 16 units of this, the later E 91 loco, at Krauss loco works in 1922. Then in 1924, they additionally ordered a further four locos to be built at the same company. Thus 20 Bavarian engines were built.

In the meantime 14 further locos were ordered by DRG to be used for the Silesian mountain railroads. I have no information as to where they were built, but maybe also at Krauss. Which by the way is a Munich company.

First loco was put into service in August 1925, the last one was E 91 20 in September 1927.

Then in 1927 a further series was ordered for the Silesian railroads. THIS was the E 91.9. These 12 locos had less weight (7 tons less) while offering the same power as the original ones, were 60 cm longer than the old ones and they had different brake systems (electric resistor brakes). They can be distinguished from the old series by the cooler windows, which were located in the upper part of the body.

8 locos fell into the hands of the Russians at the end of the war, and were treated accordingly by them. When returned to East Germany in 1952, they had to be scrapped. The rest had already been brought to Bavaria during the war, so DB received 23 locos, which were used for quite a long time, until 1972 !!

What was your question again ?? I think I have to look up a little bit more information.

Regards,

Hans

Very informative Hans. I always have a difficulty in telling the dates of the DRG because of the disparity of the dates between the formation and the implementation of the DRG. The end date of the DRG is also always difficult to explain as most people assume it was in 1945, not in 1936 when the the railway went back to calling itself the Deutsche Reichsbahn dropping the G even though it was still technically a Gesellschaft.
Ira

Also, what could be the mysterious reason why the previously released model in 2003 in era III (39195)came out with a C-Sine motor whereas the 2006 new model (37196) has been "downgraded" to a 5-pole motor?

Greetings,
Armando