Not sure what you are saying with "must take possession". A shipper can 'create' a shipment label that may show up on a tracking system, but until the package is actually handed to a US Postal worker, its not going anywhere. Then, at border crossings, there is the wait in customs.

Inside the US then we suffer from the mess that is the delivery process to our homes, where the deliveries can happen from a host of different people using varying criteria about where they may leave the package and when. For most of us, who no longer are allowed to have a mailbox attached to our homes, this means the mail may be left at our doorstep, it may be in a street mailbox or group mailbox down the road, or we may have a slip of paper in that mailbox or attached to our door requiring us to go to the post office to pick up, where the postal employees may or may not be able to find the package. Its been time eliminate the US Postal Service for a long time. They are this semi-private-government-supported-civil-service harry mess that just cannot be killed it seems.

Yep! That pretty much sums it up!!

I must have written at least 1000 times that my native language is not English but French.

Taking possession has been translated word for word from French into English.

Among the meanings that can be given in French to this sentence, the meaning of the sentence simply means:''I take the package in my hands and I carry it somewhere''.

One of the particularities of the French language is that it is rich in innuendo and understanding.

I make an effort to ensure that my English is up to the task and I will not make fun of an Anglophone who tries to speak French.

So I'd rather be safe than sorry. Have respect for my efforts

Thewolf

I've read the entire thread about 5 times now, and I think I understand it now.

However; I still don't know if the seller weren't home when the postman came by, or if the postman didn't show up at all ??



No; but you spend a lot of time blaming others for not understanding your posts ( Pun un-intended )

Per.

I don't care about Purellum's comments and PMPeter's likes every time I'm contradicted, PMPeter looks like a monkey clapping behind the bars of a cage.

In Quebec we say:''' Je décrisse d'ici et foutez-vous le où je pense'''

And since many of you are hypocrites, have fun on my back. I don't care what you say. No time to waste with people like PMPeter, Purellun and other clowns

Given your level of French, use the google translator

Thewolf

The problem I had with understanding isn't the literal translation so much but that the phrases that are produced by translation software don't always make sense in the resulting combination and order. Part is that is that in English people say things differently than the literal translation. You know that the basic grammatical structure is sentences is completely different between French and English.

In English in the US we would say that the USPS has not yet picked up the package...". I now understand what you are saying. The USPS does provide a pickup service but every shipper can certainly bring the package to the Post Office. If they want the post office to come to then then they have to be there when the postal person shows up. If it's a home then there is the complication the postal employee may knock and the home owner not hear it. If it is a business address that is open then I expect the USPS would come by every day Monday through Friday but not on the weekends.

I agree with you with this

Thewolf

Je pense que je vais prendre le temps pour repondre a LeLoup (aka TheWolf) en francais. L'expediteur prepare l'expedition par ordi. Il va sur usps.com et remplit les informations. A ce point la, cet information va apparaitre sur le reseau informatique de USPS. Pour un envoi au Canada, il se peut que l'information va aussi paraitre sur canadapost.ca.
Dependant du lieu d'envoi, et s'il s'agit d'un expediteur privee ou commerciale, il se peut que le colis sera ramasse par le service postale. Pour des utilisateurs commerciales, le courrier sortant est ramasse par le livreur. Dans d'autre cas, il existe un contrat stipulant que le courrier sera ramasse sur certains dates, e.g. les Mardis et les Jeudis ou un fois par semaine.
Ceci peut entrainer des delais d'expedition, que vous, en tant que destinataire ne comprenez pas, et qui ne sont pas expliques par le service postale.

The shipper prepares the package online. He fills out the related forms, prints out the shipping label and it is billed to their account. At this point, the information (tracking) appears on the USPS network. For a shipment to Canada, it may also appear on the Canadapost.ca site, most often as "A label has been created" or similar.
Depending on where the package is being shipped from and whether the shipper is a private person or business, the parcel might be picked up by the post office, left at a drop off point or post office. For commercial clients, outgoing mail is picked up by the regular delivery service. In other cases, it may occur that pickup occurs on specific days (e.g. Tuesdays and Thursdays) or once a week.
This can create delays in shipping that you, as recipient won't understand and is not explained by the postal authorities.

Having worked in a mailroom of a government agency, I can attest to the way in which outgoing mail was placed in special baskets that were picked up by the post office each day. There were frequent cases where staff had dropped off packages, letters, etc to be mailed that had to be either put into a bin for the next scheduled pickup or in special cases, handed to us to be taken to the post office in person, which usually cut into my lunch hour.

In even more rare occurrences, the shipper might choose an outside shipper, who picks up the parcel from their location and then delivers it into the postal system. This can occur locally, regionally or internationally. An example of this would be the new service used by ebay, operated by Pitney Bowes that is used in certain countries and regions, or the combined services of UPS or Fedex with USPS. In those cases, packages receive both courrier and postal tracking numbers and USPS normally handles the final delivery. Shipments to Canada like this might be imported into Canada by a private carrier and then handed over to Canada Post at the border for final delivery.

I hope that this provides you with a little more understanding about how things work.

I hope that you get your item soon.

Regards

Mike C

Mike,

Thank you for this and it is appreciated.

The source of the disagreement was that I thought the US Post worked the same way as Canada Post or Purolater.

After leaving accounting and my position as Controller in 2004 in Montreal, I worked as shipper in various companies here.

At the end of each day, Canada Post or Purolator would pick up...every day.

The US Post was notified 3 days ago and they picked it up today. Only today.

Here with my US salesman I did not know that the US post office passes to make the pick up only certain days of the week

To finish with Canada Post, from memory from my time as an accounting controller. Canada Post would pick up the items every day if the contract contained such an agreement


If not, like Mike my friend does, the seller will take the package to the post office

Thewolf