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dhyan		#1 Posted : 07 February 2018 18:55:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Purchased this locomotive as an analogue one but on opening it up, found this inside - instead of a reversing unit. I cannot figure out what it is? Can someone help please? Can it be that it is digital decoder but I cannot see any switches to set/change the address. Many thanks Dhyan
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RayF		#2 Posted : 07 February 2018 20:28:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		The main components on that board seem to be a bridge rectifier and two power transistors. I would hazard a guess at this being an electronic reversing unit? I see no sign of a decoder or any other digital component.
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dhyan		#3 Posted : 08 February 2018 18:18:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: RayF The main components on that board seem to be a bridge rectifier and two power transistors. I would hazard a guess at this being an electronic reversing unit? I see no sign of a decoder or any other digital component. Thanks Mr. RayF, I thought so too but had to inquire because a so called Marklin expert told me that it is a digital decoder. I run it analogue and it runs beautifully. Here is a picture of its operator. Warmest regards Dhyan.
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Markus Schild		#4 Posted : 08 February 2018 19:36:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Dhyan, it is a HERKAT #2655 electronic reversing unit. Works fine unless the battery is empty. The layout was used from the late 1980s, earlier ones are looking slightly different. Regards Markus
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dhyan		#5 Posted : 09 February 2018 10:41:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, it is a HERKAT #2655 electronic reversing unit. Works fine unless the battery is empty. The layout was used from the late 1980s, earlier ones are looking slightly different. Regards Markus Thanks Mr.Marcus, Very helpful. Hope I do not have to replace the battery ever (I plan to run it in one direction only). Warmest regards Dhyan
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Markus Schild		#6 Posted : 09 February 2018 11:03:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Dhyan, When the battery is empty, the loco won't move any more. ROCO and FLEISCHMANN had similar reversing switches in these years. It is not rare that original locos are offered as defective where only the battery must be changed. Regards Markus
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dhyan		#7 Posted : 11 February 2018 23:40:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, When the battery is empty, the loco won't move any more. ROCO and FLEISCHMANN had similar reversing switches in these years. It is not rare that original locos are offered as defective where only the battery must be changed. Regards Markus Dear Marcus, Can you give me some idea about the battery as I cannot figure out which component is the battery? You have been very helpful. Many thanks and kind regards Dhyan
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Markus Schild		#8 Posted : 11 February 2018 23:56:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Dhyan, I coloured the contact and the battery. But if it works don't change it. Just in the case, the loco does not work any more: It's not broken, just the battery. Regards Markus
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dhyan		#9 Posted : 17 February 2018 19:35:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, I coloured the contact and the battery. But if it works don't change it. Just in the case, the loco does not work any more: It's not broken, just the battery. Regards Markus Dear Marcus, Another query please. Bought a 3092 steam locomotive and the thing just sits on the tracks. Was told that it is analogue but it is not moving at all. On opening it up, it seems to have a decoder (but not a Marklin one - I think). Can you help me again please? And if it is a decoder, then how to find its address. I have already tried it on my digital setup, but nothing happens there either. See photos. It is a beautiful machine but sadly not running. Many thanks and warm regards Dhyan
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Markus Schild		#10 Posted : 17 February 2018 19:59:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Dhyan, Looks like an ESU LokPilot V4.0: http://www.esu.eu/produkte/lokpilot/lokpilot-v40/ There is also a link for the manual. I cannot determine whether the decoder shown is the full version, or a version only understanding DCC. The easiest would be to reset it following the manual. Regards Markus
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dhyan		#11 Posted : 17 February 2018 21:28:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, Looks like an ESU LokPilot V4.0: http://www.esu.eu/produkte/lokpilot/lokpilot-v40/ There is also a link for the manual. I cannot determine whether the decoder shown is the full version, or a version only understanding DCC. The easiest would be to reset it following the manual. Regards Markus Thanks Dear Marcus. Will work on it tomorrow and will let you know if I am successful. Kindest regards Dhyan
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dhyan		#12 Posted : 20 February 2018 17:51:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: dhyan Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, Looks like an ESU LokPilot V4.0: http://www.esu.eu/produkte/lokpilot/lokpilot-v40/ There is also a link for the manual. I cannot determine whether the decoder shown is the full version, or a version only understanding DCC. The easiest would be to reset it following the manual. Regards Markus Thanks Dear Marcus. Will work on it tomorrow and will let you know if I am successful. Kindest regards Dhyan Tried everything but it does not run. My mobile station recognizes it as a DCC one with address 0 but it does respond to any of the inputs from the mobile station. I have changed the address, reset it, reset the mobile station etc. - still dead. Any tips would be helpful Kind regards Dhyan
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franciscohg		#13 Posted : 20 February 2018 20:02:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,267 Location: Patagonia		Hi, did you tried in analog? With a white transformer....
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dhyan		#14 Posted : 20 February 2018 21:17:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: franciscohg Hi, did you tried in analog? With a white transformer.... Yes, I did. But still no movement. Such a nice steam loc but dead.
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cookee_nz		#15 Posted : 21 February 2018 09:50:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,953 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: dhyan Originally Posted by: franciscohg Hi, did you tried in analog? With a white transformer.... Yes, I did. But still no movement. Such a nice steam loc but dead. Do you know when it last ran? Are the wheels free? Just ruling out it being seized from dried lubricant. It does rather sound like the decoder is kaput! But wait a little longer in case someone else does have the same decider and might have some ideas.
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dhyan		#16 Posted : 21 February 2018 10:48:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: dhyan Originally Posted by: franciscohg Hi, did you tried in analog? With a white transformer.... Yes, I did. But still no movement. Such a nice steam loc but dead. Do you know when it last ran? Are the wheels free? Just ruling out it being seized from dried lubricant. It does rather sound like the decoder is kaput! But wait a little longer in case someone else does have the same decider and might have some ideas. No idea when it last ran. Bought it on eBay from a recognized dealer as a running loc, but it is dead. Wheels and motor are turning over. It is not frozen.
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franciscohg		#17 Posted : 21 February 2018 18:03:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,267 Location: Patagonia		last call, brushes? If not, it certainly sounds as a dead decoder. Good moment to upgrade to full sound!
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cookee_nz		#18 Posted : 21 February 2018 18:43:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,953 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: dhyan Originally Posted by: dhyan Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Dhyan, Looks like an ESU LokPilot V4.0: http://www.esu.eu/produkte/lokpilot/lokpilot-v40/ There is also a link for the manual. I cannot determine whether the decoder shown is the full version, or a version only understanding DCC. The easiest would be to reset it following the manual. Regards Markus Thanks Dear Marcus. Will work on it tomorrow and will let you know if I am successful. Kindest regards Dhyan Tried everything but it does not run. My mobile station recognizes it as a DCC one with address 0 but it does respond to any of the inputs from the mobile station. I have changed the address, reset it, reset the mobile station etc. - still dead. Any tips would be helpful Kind regards Dhyan Interesting that an MS seems to detect it, wonder if a CS might give more options? Makes me think.... "restore factory defaults", if someone knows how. Got a friend or dealer with a CS?
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franciscohg		#19 Posted : 21 February 2018 20:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,267 Location: Patagonia		That may help, but if is not working on analog is a bad sympton, unless the previous owner disabled analog mode.....
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dhyan		#20 Posted : 22 February 2018 00:34:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: franciscohg last call, brushes? If not, it certainly sounds as a dead decoder. Good moment to upgrade to full sound! Brushes are good. I am sending it back to the seller. Thanks everyone for your help. Kind regards and have fun with your hobby. Dhyan
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jerdenberg		#21 Posted : 24 February 2018 13:33:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,011 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		The total "deadness" suggests there could also be a very trivial reason, i.e. the track voltage not reaching the decoder; that is not very likely, but only a check can establish that. I could imagine the connection between the slider and the decoder was feeble, but functional, on dispatch from the seller, and broke down during transport. Jeroen
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dhyan		#22 Posted : 24 February 2018 17:24:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 15 Location: The Hague		Originally Posted by: jerdenberg The total "deadness" suggests there could also be a very trivial reason, i.e. the track voltage not reaching the decoder; that is not very likely, but only a check can establish that. I could imagine the connection between the slider and the decoder was feeble, but functional, on dispatch from the seller, and broke down during transport. Jeroen Thanks for your guidance. I have already returned it to the seller. Let's hope he can fix it. Kind regards Dhyan
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