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alonso231gery		#1 Posted : 15 January 2006 03:35:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		will they produce again the 39561 model? can they produce a weathered krokodil? do u think that a mfx version of a krokodil is possible?(sounds,telex etc)
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Charlie		#2 Posted : 15 January 2006 06:39:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 707 Location: Texas, USA		I am sure that a MFX version of the Croc will arrrive one of these days.
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foumaro		#3 Posted : 15 January 2006 09:38:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		There is a weathered krokodil item 37569 with road number 13305. I think is a little hard to find.
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steventrain		#4 Posted : 15 January 2006 12:13:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		The 39561 Brown livery (not weathering) been production in 2002/3. Export model for switzerland one-time series. This model is being produced in a one-time series for the anniversary 100 years of the Swiss Federal Railways.
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alonso231gery		#5 Posted : 15 January 2006 14:50:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		the question will i see a new krokodil in M's new catalogue?
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Armando		#6 Posted : 15 January 2006 16:56:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,352 Location: Houston, Texas		Hopefully, Märklin will issue one MFX retooled version with interior details in the cabin, instead of all those hideous cables. The same goes for the "Bavarian Crocodile" and the "German Crocodile" E-94. Greetings, Armando
		Best regards, Armando García
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alonso231gery		#7 Posted : 15 January 2006 17:06:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		when? c-sinus?
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steventrain		#8 Posted : 15 January 2006 19:48:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		It will be C-shine with if new items for 2006 or onwards. Records of HO scale total 32 Krokodil locos production by marklin 1947 to date. http://www.bahn.hfkern.de/Maerklin/CH_ce68.html
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Frostie		#9 Posted : 15 January 2006 20:58:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		I would like to see this baby with New Csine/MFX/Moving Pantographs / telex couplers at both ends, and in the "Snowy" version no less. Or It could also have a platinum body. I just have to work on that deadliest of sins for me - that is GREED !
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alonso231gery		#10 Posted : 08 January 2007 17:08:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Finally my 39561 is on its way from my dealer in Thessaloniki.Expected tomorrow. I guess i will not take another krokodil for a long time(at least that is what i believe now)...
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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intruder		#11 Posted : 08 January 2007 19:31:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Great news, alonso Congratuations!
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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Guus		#12 Posted : 08 January 2007 20:49:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Nikos: Finally my 39561 is on its way from my dealer in Thessaloniki.Expected tomorrow. Congratualtions Nikos.This is rapidly becoming a rare item I think. Enjoy the wonderful model with its beautiful "old" C-sine motor. It wouldn't surprise me if the new Krokodil is fitted with a "next generation C-sine" propulsion. Kind regards Guus
		Kind regards, Guus
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alonso231gery		#13 Posted : 08 January 2007 21:00:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Thank you Svein and Guus. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:This is rapidly becoming a rare item I think Yes it seems to be,I always wanted it. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Enjoy the wonderful model with its beautiful "old" C-sine motor. It's brother the 39560 has the best running characteristics,so i guess that one is the same.
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foumaro		#14 Posted : 09 January 2007 09:06:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Why i do not believe you? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Finally my 39561 is on its way from my dealer in Thessaloniki.Expected tomorrow. I guess i will not take another krokodil for a long time(at least that is what i believe now)...
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steventrain		#15 Posted : 09 January 2007 11:41:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Cool,keep posted soon with picture when arrive.
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alonso231gery		#16 Posted : 09 January 2007 14:49:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Just arrived,i will post some images later at night. Panayoti i guess i will not buy another one since i do not want a third green krokodil(but never say never).
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 10 January 2007 06:49:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />do u think that a mfx version of a krokodil is possible?(sounds,telex etc) Hey Nikos, looks like someone in Marklin land heard you. Check out the 29680 'Gotthard' Digital Mega 2 Train Starter Set on Plavnostruev's shop web site (http://www.euromodeltrains.com) Here's the description of the set: "Highlights * Top of the line complete digital railroad with two MFX trains with sound and a Central Station * 11.4 meters/37.5 feet C Track layout with 2 high speed turnouts equipped with electric mechanism and digital decoders Prototype Swiss Federal Railways freight train and passenger train. Class Ce 6/8 III "Crocodile" electric locomotive. Class Ae 6/6 'Luzern' electric locomotive. Used on Gotthard route around 1950's. Model Both locomotives have MFX digital decoders with sound and controlled C-Sine propulsion system." Maybe Marklin will also produce separate catalog items for each of these locos - here's hoping. From Charlie's web site (www.ajckids.com) - "Model: Both locomotives have MFX digital decoders, controlled C-sine high efficiency propulsion systems (c 90 for the Luzern, compact design C-sine for the Crocodile), and a sound effects generator. Only 5000 sets will be produced."
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alonso231gery		#18 Posted : 10 January 2007 13:59:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		That is very good news David thank you,unfortunatly my 39561 arrived yestarday and was not working at all,my dealer took it back of course,paying all the shipping expenses and he will propably send it back to Germany.So he sent me my next item on my wishlist,the famous 37284(i will propably get the krokodil next month(hopefully).
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foumaro		#19 Posted : 10 January 2007 15:28:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Very sad news.[:(]
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john black		#20 Posted : 10 January 2007 15:53:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Sorry for you, my friend. Perhaps you can persuade him for a little test <u>before</u> shipping ...
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alonso231gery		#21 Posted : 10 January 2007 15:56:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		He did John,he did...
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john black		#22 Posted : 10 January 2007 16:00:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Oh oh ...
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 10 January 2007 17:43:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />unfortunatly my 39561 arrived yestarday and was not working at all,my dealer took it back. Sorry to hear that..
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alonso231gery		#24 Posted : 10 January 2007 19:20:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Just look at the bright side of life Steven,i will take the BR288 instead.
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Guus		#25 Posted : 10 January 2007 20:44:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		It's sad to hear your croc is faulty. Hope Märklin will repair yours as soon as possible. I had a quick look at M's homepage for the BR288.Didn't know what kind of loc it is [:I] Looks like you've bought another rare beauty.Congratulations Kind regards Guus
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alonso231gery		#26 Posted : 10 January 2007 21:34:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Thanks Guus,i believe the krokodil will be hospitalised for aprox. 2 months in Germany.
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Piper		#27 Posted : 10 January 2007 21:45:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 262 Location: Johannesburg		I'm now, at last a member of that exclusive group,"Gator/krokodil club" Its in the bag. Its working fine and I'm really sad Alonso, that yours is not well. Piper
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alonso231gery		#28 Posted : 10 January 2007 22:19:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Thank you Piper,where is that M temple?
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steventrain		#29 Posted : 10 January 2007 22:24:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Nice picture,Piper.
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Piper		#30 Posted : 10 January 2007 22:49:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 262 Location: Johannesburg		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Thank you Piper,where is that M temple? Alonso, it is in Göppingen close to the factory and where the new shop/museum resides.
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Bigdaddynz		#31 Posted : 10 January 2007 23:27:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Sorry to hear, Nikos, that your new Kroc is a non-goer. Hope this gets resolved quickly. I'm thinking of maybe picking up something like a 3356 Kroc and doing a digital conversion with MFX Loksound, etc. This will then go with my 39560 (which is working fine). Hope the BR288 works OK when you get it. How's that Big Boy of yours? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by foumaro <br />There is a weathered krokodil item 37569 with road number 13305. I think is a little hard to find. Just by chance I was browsing the website of TrainTrader in Sydney, and found they have one of these weathered Krocs in stock, although at $AUS1350. I visited this store last year, and found they have lots of stock, but at rather expensive prices, compared to what you can find on eBay. Check out their website at http://www.traintrader.com.au and their Marklin stock list at http://www.traintrader.c...s/stocklists/marklin.pdf Cheers
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Tony		#32 Posted : 11 January 2007 07:31:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Hey great picture Piper - looks like a cool shop!! - I hope you had a good trip.
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alonso231gery		#33 Posted : 11 January 2007 13:39:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Well my dealer just gave me a ring and he said that the reason the krokodil was not moving was that the switch was turned,so as to take current by the pantographs,how stupid of me.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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HueyCE		#34 Posted : 12 January 2007 01:44:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		It can happen to the best of us, don't beat yourself up too much. Ira
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Bigdaddynz		#35 Posted : 12 January 2007 02:27:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Glad it's only a PBKC (Problem Between Keyboard and Chair) problem. As Ira says, don't beat yourself up, we all have these 'Doh' moments. [:I][:I] Are you taking the 39561 back, Nikos?
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alonso231gery		#36 Posted : 12 January 2007 02:42:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Yes it happens... Of course i will,but next month.
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intruder		#37 Posted : 12 January 2007 14:40:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I'm happy on your behalf, Nikos.
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alonso231gery		#38 Posted : 12 January 2007 17:34:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Thanks Svein. I also have taken some images that have the 39561 inside.But i will wait for next month,since i do not have that model now.
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 12 January 2007 19:20:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Very cool,good collection of krokodil.
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bmcrae		#40 Posted : 12 January 2007 21:15:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Piper <br /> I'm now, at last a member of that exclusive group,"Gator/krokodil club" Its in the bag. Its working fine and I'm really sad Alonso, that yours is not well. Piper Nice photo Piper! I will post the same when I get back to Germany for a visit (nothing planned yet). Anyone else have a similar photo?
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alonso231gery		#41 Posted : 05 February 2007 01:03:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Hope the BR288 works OK when you get it. How's that Big Boy of yours? My Big Boy is very good,he sends you his regards. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:This is rapidly becoming a rare item I think. Well i do not think so Guus, i see many of them all the time,at stores,at internet auctions etc.
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