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strummer		#1 Posted : 30 November 2017 20:47:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2017(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Oregon, Waldport		If I may kind of go off into "left field" here for a moment... I just have to put a shout out here for the Marklin wire product: it's got enough "substance" to be easy to work with, it solders nicely, and is very flexible. I'm really liking it, and will be purchasing a lot more in the future, I'm sure. Ok, that's all. Mark in Oregon

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PMPeter		#2 Posted : 30 November 2017 21:21:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1,275 Location: Port Moody, BC		Probably an expensive way to go for small gauge wire. Considering you live in Oregon you probably have a Frys near you and can most likely get a similar gauge of stranded wire for a lot less per foot. Cheers Peter


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xxup		#3 Posted : 30 November 2017 21:31:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,473 Location: Australia		I am with Mark.. It is hard to get wire that feels good and solders well.. That Marklin stuff is very good quality..
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PMPeter		#4 Posted : 30 November 2017 22:08:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1,275 Location: Port Moody, BC		I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, just commenting on his statement that he is going to buy a lot more. In that case there may be a less expensive alternative for just as good a quality wire and a greater selection of wire gauges. Frys is an electronics store chain only found in the US West coast states and since he lives in one of those it might be worth his while to check it out. Whenever I get a chance to go down the US West coast I stop in at a Frys store and buy a years supply of wire and other electronic goodies to use on the train layout. Peter

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cookee_nz		#5 Posted : 30 November 2017 22:42:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: PMPeter I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, just commenting on his statement that he is going to buy a lot more. In that case there may be a less expensive alternative for just as good a quality wire and a greater selection of wire gauges. Frys is an electronics store chain only found in the US West coast states and since he lives in one of those it might be worth his while to check it out. Whenever I get a chance to go down the US West coast I stop in at a Frys store and buy a years supply of wire and other electronic goodies to use on the train layout. Peter Marklin do not 'make' their own wire, they will be sourcing it from a specialist supplier and anyone purchasing this is only paying a middle-man markup. Supplier to Marklin Marklin to Dealer Dealer to Customer For an item like wire, you will definitely get more bang from your buck purchasing larger quantities by the roll from a wholesale wire supplier. On the other hand, if you are stuck, and need a smaller amount to finish a section then the convenience of going to your local dealer and getting the branded product can same a lot of hassle - assuming of course you even have a dealer within reasonable distance.
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kiwiAlan		#6 Posted : 30 November 2017 23:38:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Marklin do not 'make' their own wire, they will be sourcing it from a specialist supplier and anyone purchasing this is only paying a middle-man markup. The manufacturer is quote possibly Brawa, which has an extensive wire production plant, and markets at least three gauges of wire in multiple colours for MRR use. I don't know who supplies the wire that Viessman markets, but that could also be Brawa.

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strummer		#7 Posted : 30 November 2017 23:50:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2017(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Oregon, Waldport		Well, whoever makes it, I like it very much... :) Mark in Oregon

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river6109		#8 Posted : 01 December 2017 00:52:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I only use orange wire from Spain., yellow wire from China, black wire from Russia, brown wire from Africa, blue wire from Australia, green wire from Amazon, white wire from Greenland, red wire from Japan.
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PJMärklin		#9 Posted : 01 December 2017 10:40:37(UTC) Retweet
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Henrik Schütz		#10 Posted : 11 December 2017 00:05:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2015(UTC) Posts: 74 Location: Stockholms Lan, Stockholm		Nothing wrong with Brawa, but the Märklin wire is 0.19 mm and Brawa 0.14 mm . Some times it makes a difference, usually not... Henrik Schütz

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river6109		#11 Posted : 11 December 2017 03:28:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I've bought a lot of ESU (0.5mm) wire and this is very thin, its ok when you just connect wires and solder them but they don't like to be bend around a lot and they soon break off from their soldering point., lately I'm just using insulated copper wire especially when I add Led's to locos, they can be bend many times without breaking and being a single strand breaking off at the soldering point is more or less impossible. I'm not concerned about the price more about the sturdiness and at the same time flexibility. for my layout I buy 100m rolls of wire from Jaycar electronics for around A$ 10.00 a roll. John
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river6109		#12 Posted : 11 December 2017 03:31:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Henrik Schütz Nothing wrong with Brawa, but the Märklin wire is 0.19 mm and Brawa 0.14 mm . Some times it makes a difference, usually not... Henrik Schütz I think we have to rectify the thickness of the wires its not 0.19mm or 0.14mm its 0.19mm² and 0.14mm² which makes a lot of difference. ESU wire is 0.5mm and this is very thin John
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Bigdaddynz		#13 Posted : 11 December 2017 09:38:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: river6109 I only use orange wire from Spain. I doubt that this is official marklin-users trademarked orange wire, which comes from Norway and Denmark.....
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cookee_nz		#14 Posted : 11 December 2017 17:51:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: river6109 I only use orange wire from Spain. I doubt that this is official marklin-users trademarked orange wire, which comes from Norway and Denmark..... And he forgot to add #8 wire from right here in NZ! Galvanised colour only but can be painted. Not easy to solder but works well twisted. A regular trackside accessory here.
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