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Offline Punkieys17  
#1 Posted : 21 September 2017 22:32:23(UTC)
Punkieys17

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Recently found 2 cast metal locomotives. One is a tm800 and one a sk800. Both have a mechanical lever that I belive is used for reversing. Hopefully this feature will identify the model version. I would like to check the locos out but am aware Marklin used different voltages. Any help great fully received.
Offline scarfo  
#2 Posted : 21 September 2017 22:51:37(UTC)
scarfo

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Originally Posted by: Punkieys17 Go to Quoted Post
Recently found 2 cast metal locomotives. One is a tm800 and one a sk800. Both have a mechanical lever that I belive is used for reversing. Hopefully this feature will identify the model version. I would like to check the locos out but am aware Marklin used different voltages. Any help great fully received.


Hi - both are operated with the standard marklin voltage transformers - 0-16 volts AC controlled with the knob of the controller for speed control (older blue metal types, or newer white plastic type) and a pulse of 24 volts AC which operates the reverser solenoid switch to reverse direction. The hand levers are a back up to reverse direction in case the solenoid is not working.
The tm800 is reasonably common and is supposedly a model of a br80 although the dimensions are somewhat compromised. The tk800 is an early version of a br81 - quite rare in tk800 form, but very common in later versions.
Hope this helps
regards Charles
Offline Markus Schild  
#3 Posted : 22 September 2017 11:15:30(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

The SK 800 is a model of a German streamlined steamer.
Depending on the year the locomotives could have the earlier switch which switches in four steps: forward - stop with lights - backwards - stop with lights - ..... and not only forward - backwards like switches from 1957. Locomotives with earlier switches always make a jump while switching. The run at 5-16 V (AC or DC) and switch at +20V. (usually 24V)

The locomotive "TK800" was a promotional series for the Nuremberg - Toy Fair 2001. It is a normal, modern 3031 but printed like an old model. The people which decided to print "TK800" did not understand the traditional numbering system. A "TK800" would have been a model of a German class 62 express - tender - locomotive. This model was made in 0 and 1 - gauge but never in H0/00.

Regards

Markus
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Offline cookee_nz  
#4 Posted : 24 September 2017 08:06:13(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Location: Paremata, Wellington
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

The SK 800 is a model of a German streamlined steamer.
Depending on the year the locomotives could have the earlier switch which switches in four steps: forward - stop with lights - backwards - stop with lights - ..... and not only forward - backwards like switches from 1957. Locomotives with earlier switches always make a jump while switching. The run at 5-16 V (AC or DC) and switch at +20V. (usually 24V)

The locomotive "TK800" was a promotional series for the Nuremberg - Toy Fair 2001. It is a normal, modern 3031 but printed like an old model. The people which decided to print "TK800" did not understand the traditional numbering system. A "TK800" would have been a model of a German class 62 express - tender - locomotive. This model was made in 0 and 1 - gauge but never in H0/00.

Regards

Markus


Hi Markus,

It might be an interesting article to have "the traditional numbering system" explained in more detail.

I know several times I have had people ask if there was any methodology or format behind the codes or numbering system that Märklin used?

Cheers

Cookee
Cookee
Wellington
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Offline Punkieys17  
#5 Posted : 25 September 2017 18:11:30(UTC)
Punkieys17

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Location: England, East Horsley
A big thanks to all for the useful replies. I do have Super 280 transformer which I will try (carefully as the insulation is on the way out) the locos. Fascinating about the TM800 (0-6-0) as it fooled me into thinking its older with the reverse lever. Julian
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