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CCS800KrokHunter3		#1 Posted : 16 June 2017 20:28:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605		Hi Marklin collectors, I came across this lot from an upcoming Dorotheum auction. I've included an image here and there are more images if you click on the image link below. The description mentions something about 1946 (lid image) however I believe this locomotive is pre-war possibly 1938/39? Unfortunately there is no picture of the box... Best, Paul
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GNAM		#2 Posted : 17 June 2017 09:00:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Rhone-Alpes, Lyon		The couplings are of type 3 Koll's (1938). There was an early restoration with new bissels, the chassis is deformed by the zinkpest. The chassis is not found at Ritter's, the former owner has undoubtedly abandoned. GNAM
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jvuye		#3 Posted : 17 June 2017 22:51:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,881 Location: South Western France		Definitely pre-war production. Ritter AFAIK has the parts for chassis, wheels, etc. Body and external chassis looks OK. The little cars are a nice bunch in very nice condition apparently. If price doesn't run up crazy, looks like an opportunity! Cheers
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CCS800KrokHunter3		#4 Posted : 22 June 2017 19:35:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605		Thanks for the comments from my friends in France. I have seen replica HS 800 chassises, perhaps from Ritter in their inventory. Here is one on their website: https://www.ritter-resta...y=1.4.5;artID=2158;typ=1 Best, Paul
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GNAM		#5 Posted : 26 June 2017 19:24:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Rhone-Alpes, Lyon		No, sorry, it is a HS 700. The spare parts may be founded by TTN Internetshop for only € 688 + enventualy rocker for brushes + wheels. GNAM
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CCS800KrokHunter3		#6 Posted : 27 June 2017 01:46:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605		Thanks for the link, yes those replica parts appear to be very high quality but also expensive. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between HS 800 and HS 700. I looked again at the photos and I think it's a first version HS 800. The brushes are more toward the right side whereas with an HS 700 the brushes are smaller and closer to the center of the locomotive. Paul
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GNAM		#7 Posted : 27 June 2017 13:28:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Rhone-Alpes, Lyon		The HS 800 have lamps, none on the 700 Gnam
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CCS800KrokHunter3		#8 Posted : 27 June 2017 23:19:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605		Yes that is another good differentiation that is even easier to spot! Paul
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MalinAC		#9 Posted : 28 June 2017 08:58:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: DONEGAL, CARNDONAGH		Also the reverse lever in middle of body on hs800 ,none on 700


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