Does Marklin Make a 60760-type Conversion Kit for the Older Motors?

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5HorizonsRR		#1 Posted : 11 November 2016 21:18:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		Hi everyone, Easy question- does Marklin (or ESU?) make an affordable kit to convert older Marklin standard (round brushes) motors to basic-no frills digital? or do I have to buy the motor kit and a decoder elsewhere? Asking as at the ~30 euro 60760 price point I'd probably start upgrading the whole fleet, but at double that I start hesitating.... Thoughts, tricks or ideas?
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RayF		#2 Posted : 11 November 2016 22:56:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Hi John, A similar priced upgrade kit is available from ESU for both LFCM and SFCM motors. The kit brings a lokpilot decoder and the appropriate permanent magnet for the type of motor. http://www.esu.eu/en/pro...t/lokpilot-digital-sets/ ESU HAMO magnets for use with existing AC motors ESU 51960 Permanent magnet like Marklin 220560, (LFCM) ESU 51961 Permanent magnet like Marklin 220450, (SFCM) ESU 51962 Permanent magnet like Marklin 235690, (DCM)
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xxup		#3 Posted : 12 November 2016 02:45:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,472 Location: Australia		I didn't have much luck getting the ESU magnet for the DCM to fit properly.. From memory it stuck out too far..
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H0		#4 Posted : 12 November 2016 08:05:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,266 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: xxup I didn't have much luck getting the ESU magnet for the DCM to fit properly.. From memory it stuck out too far.. The question is about LFCM and SFCM locos. Some of those require modifications for the 60943/60944 motor sets, but the ESU sets should fit without any grinding. For DCM, the 60941/60760 is the better choice.
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GLI		#5 Posted : 13 November 2016 00:35:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 82 Location: Lithgow NSW Australia		Originally Posted by: xxup I didn't have much luck getting the ESU magnet for the DCM to fit properly.. From memory it stuck out too far.. I have used ESU magnets to convert most of my DCM locos and never had a problem! Geoff


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5HorizonsRR		#6 Posted : 20 November 2016 18:20:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		thanks everyone! Sorry for the slow reply as work has kept me off the forum a few weeks. The esu kits seem to be the answer, at least vs Marklin parts and then buying a decoder. Has anyone actually tried one for the non DCM- type motors? I know their decoders are great, I'm just curious about the rest of the parts. Also- they don't include a 5 pole rotor, does that largely detract from performance? Thanks!
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H0		#7 Posted : 20 November 2016 23:34:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,266 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Also- they don't include a 5 pole rotor, does that largely detract from performance? In my experience the performance of those converted three-pole motors ranges from "acceptable" to "excellent". I'd install five-pole Märklin parts when this can be done without modifications. I install the ESU magnets when I shy away from grinding motor parts or loco frames to make them fit.
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RayF		#8 Posted : 22 November 2016 11:12:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Also- they don't include a 5 pole rotor, does that largely detract from performance? In my experience the performance of those converted three-pole motors ranges from "acceptable" to "excellent". I'd install five-pole Märklin parts when this can be done without modifications. I install the ESU magnets when I shy away from grinding motor parts or loco frames to make them fit. That's funny, I could have written those exact words myself! Is there a danger I might actually agree with Tom on something?
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