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Offline Jabez  
#1 Posted : 10 October 2016 00:07:45(UTC)
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Many if not most of the locos featured in 'show us your locomotive purchases' are older models that do not appear in current mnfr catalogues. If you tap the model number into the Maerklin product database you are just told that it is not made any longer, end of story.
Is there any database or list which identifies the specific loco that these earlier model numbers referred to, their original specs, etc. Or do you just have to know from experience, or from vendor listings, that a MAR xxxxx was a KPEV tender steamer with digital control that came out in 2001 and has since been discontinued?
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Offline xxup  
#2 Posted : 10 October 2016 00:23:32(UTC)
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I use Koll's Guides..

The 2015 edition of this one -> https://www.amazon.de/Kolls-Preiskatalog-Liebhaberpreise-Triebfahrzeuge-Eisenbahnammeln/dp/3936339651/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1476051679&sr=8-3&keywords=Koll

and the 2015 edition of this one -> https://www.amazon.de/Kolls-Spezialkatalog-M%C3%A4rklin-2016-Sondermodelle/dp/3936339694/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&qid=1476051769&sr=8-33&keywords=Koll

In my opinion, these books are a very good investment. I only replace mine every 4 years. Next book is the 2019 edition. Laugh
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Offline Jabez  
#3 Posted : 10 October 2016 01:09:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
I use Koll's Guides..
In my opinion, these books are a very good investment. I only replace mine every 4 years. Next book is the 2019 edition. Laugh

Since I am only getting back into the hobby again, and still purchasing mainly current items, I guess I will wait for the 2019 edition. But thanks for the heads up.
Jabez

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Offline dominator  
#4 Posted : 10 October 2016 05:20:49(UTC)
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Whenever someone mentions the number of a Marklin item, I get curious and google say Marklin DA800. You try it. Gives you pictures sometimes and those being sold on the internet,.

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Offline Pmare4  
#5 Posted : 10 October 2016 05:23:58(UTC)
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Another place you can find product numbers on is a free website is from Helmut Kern: http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/

The locos are sorted by class (e.g. BR89) there, but in the Kolls book they are sorted by product number (e.g. 3000).

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Offline ktsolias  
#6 Posted : 10 October 2016 08:45:06(UTC)
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Dear Jabez

Of course Koll's is the best sourse
You can find all the Marklin Catalogs in http://lnx.3rotaie.it/wp/ for free download most in the English version
I think that most of the time are more usufful than the German text Koll's, with pictures of all the items.
If you are looking for more details Koll's is the source.
There there is a Koll's 2002 edition as well for download which cover all the classic era

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Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 10 October 2016 10:47:35(UTC)
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Another couple of sites that are useful for older items, especially if you want to see pictures:

http://www.modellbahnboerse.org/info.htm

http://www.bigio.it/Home/Home.htm

http://www.osterthun.com/models.htm
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 10 October 2016 11:12:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
You can find all the Marklin Catalogs in http://lnx.3rotaie.it/wp/ for free download most in the English version

There there is a Koll's 2002 edition as well for download which cover all the classic era


Many of the catalogs on that site were scanned by myself, as was the 2002 Kolls.

If you do download them, please respect the spirit in which they were provided as a free resource for Marklin enthusiasts, and do not sell them for profit (as has previously happened).

Marklin catalogs up to 2000 can be downloaded from the following site without having to sign up (you do need to sign up to get access to the Italian Marklinfan site) - http://www.lctm.info/Biblioteca/Catalogos/Marklin/
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Offline ktsolias  
#9 Posted : 10 October 2016 12:55:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
You can find all the Marklin Catalogs in http://lnx.3rotaie.it/wp/ for free download most in the English version

There there is a Koll's 2002 edition as well for download which cover all the classic era


Many of the catalogs on that site were scanned by myself, as was the 2002 Kolls.

If you do download them, please respect the spirit in which they were provided as a free resource for Marklin enthusiasts, and do not sell them for profit (as has previously happened).

Marklin catalogs up to 2000 can be downloaded from the following site without having to sign up (you do need to sign up to get access to the Italian Marklinfan site) - http://www.lctm.info/Biblioteca/Catalogos/Marklin/


Dear Bigdaddynz

I know you from the forum, but I had no idea that you have done this great job!!!!

Thank you so much for this great effort and I am really sorry for what happen. The same happen to me and from some time I am using watermarks in all of my publications.

Of course I believe that the real Marklin enthusiasts are not doing any profit from our hobby but spent some thousands every year!!!

Any way thank you again so much....

Costas
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Offline Minok  
#10 Posted : 10 October 2016 19:10:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
If you tap the model number into the Maerklin product database you are just told that it is not made any longer, end of story.


It would be nice if Märklin built up its full product database so that for every part number there was an entry having at least a short sentence or two description of what it was, what the prototype was and when it was sold (over what years); add a photo when possible. Even better, linking to other variants of the same prototype in other part numbers. It doesn't take a lot and they certainly could slowly build this up over time.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 10 October 2016 20:55:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
.....I had no idea that you have done this great job!!!!


Some of the old history can be found in the following thread. Please note that the links listed no longer work.

https://www.marklin-user...sts/t12093-Catalog-scans
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Offline GlennM  
#12 Posted : 11 October 2016 15:20:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
I use Koll's Guides..
In my opinion, these books are a very good investment. I only replace mine every 4 years. Next book is the 2019 edition. Laugh

Since I am only getting back into the hobby again, and still purchasing mainly current items, I guess I will wait for the 2019 edition. But thanks for the heads up.
Jabez



Just to clarify, the Kolls catalogs are issued annually.

What I like is the schedules at the front which show all the models issued in each of the major model families, i.e. all the BR 96 models grouped together for easy reference, analog, delta, digital, mfx, and colour and year of manufacture. Very useful if you want to see what is available or compare models.

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