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Marklin fans,
I am looking for information/explanation of how to understand Marklin's article numbering scheme (item number/SKU #/Part number) for locos and rolling stock. Can anybody point me to such a source? For e.g the first two digits may be associated with the loco type or even gauge type. I was able to find a cheat sheet for track article (curved) numbers in which the first two digits are to indentify the radius.
Off late after my encounter with the ICE loco, I have been a little hyper active in gathering information. I want to make the most of it before other commitments start distracting me.
I thank the community for throwing light on my explorations about MFX+, MM2 decoders and 29791 loco programming.
Thanks Vijay
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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There is a number structure, and it generally holds true, although occasionally there are exceptions. This should serve as a general overview but not a definitive guide. With HO, generally: 26xx/26xxx = Digital train sets 28xx/28xxx = Analog or Delta train set 29xx/29xxx = Starter set 30xx = Analog locomotive 31xx = Analog locomotive, analog locomotive set (loco + coaches or wagens) 33xx = Analog locomotive often with electronic reverse unit, or Delta Locomotive 34xx/34xxx = Analog or delta locomotive 35xx = 5 star propulsion analog locomotive 33xxx = Delta locomotive 36xx/36xxx = Digital locomotive 37xx/37xxx = Digital locomotive 39xxx - Digital Locomotive, normally some kind of premium 4xxx/4xxxx = Wagens and coaches, also unpowered locomotives 21xx/22xx = K Track 24xxx = C Track 51xx/52xx = M track 7xxx/7xxxx = accessories, controllers, signals, etc, etc. Other gauges: There are breakdowns for these gauges beyond the starting numbers, but I will let others elaborate. 5xxx/5xxxx = 1 Gauge (except M track numbers) 8xxx/8xxxx = Z gauge If you want to get really specific, knowing the year range a locomotive was released will probably allow an educated guess you what kind of decoder it has, motor, etc. Marklin has used some toolings for a long time, so when you see a new release of this tooling you can also make some assumptions about it. -Brandon Edited by user 21 April 2016 21:09:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  There is a number structure, and it generally holds true, although occasionally there are exceptions. This should serve as a general overview but not a definitive guide.
With HO, generally:
26xx/28xx/26xxx/28xxx = Train set, starter set 30xx = Analog locomotive 31xx = Analog locomotive, analog locomotive set (loco + coaches or wagens) 33xx = Analog locomotive often with electronic reverse unit, or Delta Locomotive 35xx = 5 star propulsion analog locomotive 33xxx = Delta locomotive 36xx/36xxx = Digital locomotive 37xx/37xxx = Digital locomotive 39xxx - Digital Locomotive, normally some kind of premium 4xxx/4xxxx = Wagens and coaches
21xx/22xx = K Track 24xxx = C Track 51xx/52xx = M track 7xxx/7xxxx = accessories, controllers, signals, etc, etc.
Other gauges:
There are breakdowns for these gauges beyond the starting numbers, but I will let others elaborate. 5xxx/5xxxx = 1 Gauge (except M track numbers) 8xxx/8xxxx = Z gauge
If you want to get really specific, knowing the year range a locomotive was released will probably allow an educated guess you what kind of decoder it has, motor, etc. Marklin has used some toolings for a long time, so when you see a new release of this tooling you can also make some assumptions about it.
-Brandon
This information is really helpful...Thanks
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  There is a number structure, and it generally holds true, although occasionally there are exceptions. This should serve as a general overview but not a definitive guide.
With HO, generally:
26xx/28xx/26xxx/28xxx = Train set, starter set 30xx = Analog locomotive 31xx = Analog locomotive, analog locomotive set (loco + coaches or wagens) 33xx = Analog locomotive often with electronic reverse unit, or Delta Locomotive 35xx = 5 star propulsion analog locomotive 33xxx = Delta locomotive 36xx/36xxx = Digital locomotive 37xx/37xxx = Digital locomotive 39xxx - Digital Locomotive, normally some kind of premium 4xxx/4xxxx = Wagens and coaches
21xx/22xx = K Track 24xxx = C Track 51xx/52xx = M track 7xxx/7xxxx = accessories, controllers, signals, etc, etc.
Other gauges:
There are breakdowns for these gauges beyond the starting numbers, but I will let others elaborate. 5xxx/5xxxx = 1 Gauge (except M track numbers) 8xxx/8xxxx = Z gauge
If you want to get really specific, knowing the year range a locomotive was released will probably allow an educated guess you what kind of decoder it has, motor, etc. Marklin has used some toolings for a long time, so when you see a new release of this tooling you can also make some assumptions about it.
-Brandon
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  39xxx - Digital Locomotive, normally some kind of premium Forget about "premium". 39xxx was reserved for C Sine locos, but after the end of the C Sine production it just means "digital loco". Some C Sine locos had 37xxx numbers. 39xx were loco kits. There isn't much of a pattern left. 34xx can be analogue or Delta. 34xxx should be Delta. 30xxx can be Delta or digital. 26xx/26xxx are digital trainsets. 28xx/28xxx are analogue or Delta trainsets. 29xx/29xxx are startersets. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: H0  Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  39xxx - Digital Locomotive, normally some kind of premium Forget about "premium". 39xxx was reserved for C Sine locos, but after the end of the C Sine production it just means "digital loco". Some C Sine locos had 37xxx numbers. 39xx were loco kits. Tom, I agree here, the C sine were special, now they are *just* digital locomotives. With that said, in my observation even not C sine 39xxx locos tend to have a few additional features (firebox light, two motors, etc), and they tend to be on the higher price end of the spectrum (deserved or not). -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  With that said, in my observation even not C sine 39xxx locos tend to have a few additional features (firebox light, two motors, etc), and they tend to be on the higher price end of the spectrum (deserved or not). The recent BR 101 models with 39xxx numbers are not better than the recent 37xxx models of BR 101 - not "premium" in my opinion. To me a 39xxx number is no longer special. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  8xxx/8xxxx = Z gauge
There are also 8xxx/38xx/38xxx numbers which are 2 rail DC Hamo branding versions of Marklin HO locomotives. Some of the later ones I think came with early digital decoders. These were all produced before 1995? when Marklin officially took over Trix and used that as its 2 rail lineup.
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Maerklin and Roco (among others) have a random modelling system. Other companies, like LSM, ACME, etc have a numbering system where the numbers are not random. For LSM, models beginning with first digit 1 are locomotives, 3 are freight cars, 4 is passenger coaches, etc. The second digit indicates the nationality, e.g Models from Germany have a 6, Switzerland/Austria/Italy have a 7, Eastern Europe have a 8, CIWL/CNL have a 9 and so on…
So, you can right away determine that 16XXX is a German locomotive, 37XXX is a Swiss or Austrian freight car and 49XXX is a CNL or CIWL coach.
Would you like it better if Maerklin had a similar system that made it easier to identify models by number?
Regards
Mike C
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Originally Posted by: mike c  Would you like it better if Maerklin had a similar system that made it easier to identify models by number? That would have advantages, but would also lead to problems with the existing number scheme (or number non-scheme). They could use new ref. codes with a leading letter so we can tell new from old codes. Märklin 37540 is a transformer or a loco. Several 4xxx have been used twice over time. We have the Koll numbering scheme that brings some clarity, but also some new confusion. A new, clean numbering scheme would be nice - but I don't think it's coming soon. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Märklin is going to start using the "38" number range, for H0 new tooling designs. this is because they are running out of "37" and "39" numbers. Published in Insider magazine 03.2022
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Originally Posted by: bph  Märklin is going to start using the "38" number range, for H0 new tooling designs. this is because they are running out of "37" and "39" numbers. Published in Insider magazine 03.2022 Well, they don't need that range of numbers for the Hamo range now, so I guess it makes sense.
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My Hammo models begin with 83.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999  My Hammo models begin with 83. When Marklin changed to 5 digit numbering they used 38xxx as the Hamo numbering. I don't think there were many models in this series as soon after they acquired Trix, which became the 2-rail line.
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