Hello,

I am very unlucy man or Marklin locos have some problems.I am model railroader since 1999.Currently I have 25+ locos on my layout and in showcases.I try to tell last 1.5 year of my problems.First I want to inform which locos I have and their specifications.

1-37740 Diesel loco: It stopped suddenly while running.When I dismanteled the body,I saw that (-) cable breaked soldered point.I fixed myself.

2-37968 Mallet:Still it was in Marklin service,decoder dead three times.Marklin did not changged it.

3-39052 BR 05 :I send back to dealer(modellbahn Kramm)two times because of decoder dead suddenly.Today decoder dead again(I got back it 10 days ago from service)Marklin did not changed it.

4-37956 BR 03 244:Decoder dead without reason,Marklin changed it.Now it is working correctly.

5-37023 BR53 : Decoder could not control the smoke generator.When I connected it directly pick-up shoe cable it was working.I made a mistake to changed board,maybe I could fix the problem without sent to servise.İt is still on Marklin service(nearly four months)Of course they request 122€ for repair.

6-37455 BR 45 010: Gestange(I do not know in English) dimanteled while she was running.Marklin changged the loco with new one.Nearly 15 days ago,sound of loco was corrupted but the loco was running.I tried decoder another loco,decoder had no problem,it was working.I resent to dealer(modellbahn shop lippe)

7-37166 I like it so much.I bouht it second for to use two loco.When I got second loco,I put on the track it dead suddenly when I dismantled the loco,I saw that board cables burned.I sent it back to dealer.

Which locos I use without problem?

1- 39393 BR 39

2- 39023 BR 18.3

3-31021-2 Class K

4-37028 P8

5-37810 BR50

6-37813 SNCF 150-Z

7-37048 Class K

8-37938 P 10

9-37098-1 BR 85

10-39010 BR 01 147

11-39017 BR 01 150

12 Seven of my old locos which I converted with sound myself.They were working without problems nearly one year.(33184 18.4,39102 BR 01 oil tender-first steam loksound,34883 SNCB 25.021,37840 cabine tender,3374 diesel 216,33803 diesel V200)

13-ESU BR 218 ,ESU Captrain 66,ESU 216 sound and smoke

14-Brawa 40119 Bavarian G 4/5 H

15-Brawa T11 KPEV

My system : CS2 and ecos 50200.Of course they are working separately.

Also Marklin service periot is too long.In my mind it means that a lot of locos send back to Marklin.

I am old man(55 years old) I tired so much because of problems especially last years production products.I like very,very much my old locos

I want to share,may be any Marklin officier read this topic.

And my loco BR64 39644 did default already after about 15 minutes used.
It´s now at Märklin factory to repair under warranty.
Soon five weeks has been passed...

Hello Bulenty,

That is a lot of electronics problems for a relative small amount of locos. The only decoders that really died on my layout are the ones I (accidentally) shorted myself. Therfore I assume the high failure rate is related to your setup somehow.


Are you sure that your electricity is OK and are you using a correct power supply for CS2 and/or Ecos? Does the electricity on your outlets have spikes/dips or something? Do you use the supplied switching supply for ecos? What supply do you use for your CS? What track voltage do you use on both systems?

Even if the answer to all questions above is OK it might be intereresting to invest in some kind of protection circuit between the wall outlet en your layout, just to be safe.

Bert

Hello and than you for questions.

I use controlers separately.When I use CS2 I remove track and electricty connections ecos.Also when I use ecos I remove CS2 track connections and electricity.CS2 has 100 va power.Ecos is 4 A booster.

If there were problems electricity,there must be problems other loco's working.

Tom, where can I find the email addresses of the CEO's - I'd like to try my chance at sending them my thoughts and see if I get a reply. If I don't try . . . .

Regards
Greg

I think your 100 VA power supply is the source of a lot of your problems. My local dealer was very concerned when the 100 VA power supply came out with the same plug configuration as the lower VA units and even said to me that if people end up using it with their MS2 or CS2 in HO they are going to blow decoders every time they have a derailment or other electrical short.

Suggest you try the lower VA output power supply unit appropriate for your local supply voltage (either 60061 in Europe or 60065 in North America).

Peter

IMHO it's just a matter of sufficient wire diameter.

The CS2 power source can be set to 60061 even with the 100 VA power supply and then it should switch off at 3A as it would with a 60 VA power supply.

My CS1 can handle 4 A, but I set the switch off current to 2 A to be on the safe side (until I need more "juice" on the layout).

Thank you for your interest.First I have to say the decoders did not burn during or after shot circuit.Ecos's power is adjustable on power supply and booster with knob.I adjusted 19v.I checked CS2 with 60v and 100v,output voltages are same.During short circuit ,you are right.I know that more feeding and more power(not extra ordinary) is better in digital system.Because regulation are done by control units.Cs2 gives 18.5v during working.

But majority of my forum friends same idea,I respect and change it with 60va power.I have it