Hi all,

Does anyone have a copy of the info sheet that comes with Marklin 02420 smoke fluid? I am looking to see how it is described (poison, etc). I saw Viessmann smoke fluid, and found a PDF of the info sheet...that's pretty nasty stuff. Don't allow contact to skin, breath the fumes (!!!), etc. I wonder if the Marklin stuff is the same? Are there other healthy alternatives?

-Brandon

Good question!
I would think that live steam would be more authentic and pleasing on the nose, but the burns and potential melted plastic would poise a greater hazard, not to mention require more track cleaning...

Ultrasonic vaporizers may be an interesting alternative....

Thanks Walter. This is basically the same as the warning on the Viessmann stuff, which must be at least similar in terms of composition.

The forum shortens the link, so here is the full version for anyone interested (copy and paste URL).


So now I am searching for a good alternative. I know Peter (petestra) uses some stuff from "KM" that is supposed to be safer, but I have no idea where you could get it. Maybe a smoke fluid that is not chemically hazardous just doesn't exist.

-Brandon

John,

Does obsession with large layout modules count? :)
Just kidding.

-Brandon

Hi all,

WE are getting to conscious to environmental Hazards. This Smoke Fluid has been around for almost a 100 Years and as far as I know has not caused anyone

more Harm then lets say Windex or Fantastic. When I was young (oh so many years ago) I used this stuff almost every day around Christmas time and I am still here.

Of course I did not drink the stuff if that is what is worrying you around your Children. As with all things common sense should be used.

Martin

Make sure the bubble is made up of acid free plastic or it will affect your skin.

I have very fond memories of sticking the chimney of my 3048 up my nose to get high on Marklin smoke fluid. That and licking model cars made with lead must be the cause of my twisted mind among other things.

Gents,

I found some good info on this website:
http://www.trainweb.org/...ps/tips3/smoke_tips.html

I was not aware that you could "damage" the smoke units by letting them run dry...

According to various website I have seen the ingredients to be Propylene Glycol. And reading trough this website it doesn't look to bad: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov...xsubstance.asp?toxid=240

Happy smoking

Brgds - Lasse

Thanks Lasse. Interesting about propylene glycol being used as an antifreeze for food shipping. I wonder, is the Marklin fluid propylene glycol?

Also, has anybody tried something like Bachmann smoke fluid? It's a lot easier for me to find something like this locally vs. Marklin. I noticed the voltage on the linked chart for a couple of Bachmann smoke generators was 12-16v, so probably close to Marklin (of course in analog operation 16v would be very high speed...)

About the damage, it may be particular to the type? I am not sure if the Marklin ones vulnerable like this. I believe Seuthe said their units would be fine run dry. Of course, if digital operation, just turn the smoke function off :)

-Brandon

Which one do you want?

http://www.megasteam.com/



Regards,

Walter