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Offline rjstichler  
#1 Posted : 16 August 2013 15:35:59(UTC)
rjstichler

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Hello All! Need some ideas on improving traction on my Marklin Z Steam Locos. I'm having some problems with a slight incline in my layout (Noch "Cortina") and would like to hear from some of you who have the same issues and how you solve them. I have heard of a product called "Bullfrog Snot", however, I believe that it is used for N and HO scale locos. I have a 8827 Class 41 Steam Freight Loco and a 88991 Class 38 Steam Passenger Loco. I also realize that weight is an issue since my diesels have no problem with the incline.

Any advice would be helpful!

Thanks...

Rich
Offline ozzman  
#2 Posted : 18 August 2013 09:48:39(UTC)
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Hi Rich and welcome to this forum. Let me start by saying what a great choice you have made in your steam locos!

You may have thought of this already, but are the wheels and track clean? If they aren't, that could make a difference. I have tried Bullfrog Snot myself and wasn't overly impressed with the results. How many coaches/wagons are your 41 and 38 pulling up the grades?
Gary
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Offline Nightowl4933  
#3 Posted : 18 August 2013 10:58:49(UTC)
Nightowl4933

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Hi Rich,

I think cleaning is the better option, as Gary said. I wouldn't personally use Bullfrog Snot (great name!) as Z scale is a bit too delicate, anyway.

Pete
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Offline rjstichler  
#4 Posted : 18 August 2013 13:57:31(UTC)
rjstichler

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Location: Ringgold, Georgia
Thanks for the response! I'm using Rokuhan track and it is fairly new. I will try cleaning it and see what happens. On the passenger loco, I'm pulling 3 DB 86 local coaches (8753,8754, & 8755). The freight, 5-6 mixed beer cars, etc...
Offline ozzman  
#5 Posted : 19 August 2013 00:19:27(UTC)
ozzman

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You're obviously not trying to pull trains that are too long. Any idea of the grade of the slight incline? Anything over 2-3% can be a problem, especially with lighter locos. Are the loco wheels clean?
Gary
Z Scale
"Never let the prototype get in the way of a good layout"
Offline waorb  
#6 Posted : 20 August 2013 20:52:31(UTC)
waorb

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Originally Posted by: rjstichler Go to Quoted Post
Need some ideas on improving traction on my Marklin Z Steam Locos.

Hello Rich!

This website below had some advices about that. I liked that one of adding weight into the locomotives... In the other hand, I really don't liked the idea to glue something into the wheels...

http://zscale.org/articles/traction.html

Also, you can go to the home page. They have a lot of good information about Z Scale.

I builded a Z layout based on Noch Kaiserstuhl plan, and resolved the same problem just decreasing the angles of tracks...

http://www.noch.de/pictu...820_Kaiserstuhl_2009.pdf
http://www.noch.de/en/ak...ownloads/gleisplaene.php

Best regards,

Walter
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Offline waorb  
#7 Posted : 20 August 2013 21:07:41(UTC)
waorb

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Location: Brazil

Meanwhile...

Reading again the tips&tricks from zscale.org, I remembered that I setup my 8832 Union Pacific A-B-A set with the "Improving Marklin Multi-Unit Wiring" instructions.

http://www.zscale.org/articles/unitwiring.html

Now, my locomotive have 4 sources of wheel power, instead of only 2 from the original way.

Regards,

Walter
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