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TrainIride		#1 Posted : 09 May 2012 14:06:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,916 Location: FRANCE		Hi everybody, I've found on ebay a nice Br18 without box. I was almost convinced it was a #3093, but I've heard about the #3091 number (this number that was re-used after for a blue P8) So, please help me to identify my model. Don't hesitate to post pics of these two Br18 to show the differences. Here's mine: Edited by user 13 May 2012 21:49:03(UTC) \| Reason: solved - thanks my friends TrainIride attached the following image(s):
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TrainIride		#2 Posted : 09 May 2012 17:43:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,916 Location: FRANCE		Seen on the web: #3091 equipped with a smoke unit #3093 not equipped with a smoke unit Is it true ? Strange to have only this difference....
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Ian555		#3 Posted : 09 May 2012 18:06:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi Joël, I have boxed 3093 number 18. 478. Couple of photo's soon. Ian.


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Ian555		#4 Posted : 09 May 2012 18:18:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi Joël, Couple of photo's. Ian. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us

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Ian555		#5 Posted : 09 May 2012 18:24:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi Joël, Forgot to say, there is no smoke unit fitted to my 3093. Ian.

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steventrain		#6 Posted : 09 May 2012 18:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		However no smoke generators on 3093 - Koll 2012.
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TrainIride		#7 Posted : 09 May 2012 18:43:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,916 Location: FRANCE		Ian and Stephen, Thank you so much. Let's have a look at the inside of my lady: looks like the bended metal part upon the bulb in front of the reversing unit is there to feed a smoke generator... Do you agree ? There is a hole in the chimney but I don't have any smokey thing else: TrainIride attached the following image(s):
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Yumgui		#8 Posted : 09 May 2012 23:02:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Joël, While I own several BR18s, I don"t have either of these great looking locos but from Koll's 2011 (und mit meine sehr, sehr schlecte Deutsch ...^^) I see the following; 3091.1 : has a smoke generator and a road number shield on the boiler which is 5mm long ... 3091.10 : as you pointed out ... is the blue version with different road number ... 3093.1 : same as 3091.1 without smoke generator 3093.2 : road number shield on the boiler which is 8mm long ... 3093.3 : (not sure about this one) smooth cylinder with printed factory shield .. I think this is lower left in the pix ^^ ? I'd say ... first thing to check is the length of the road number shield on the boiler, if it's 5mm, and knowing you have a smoke generator, then your loco is probably a 3091 ! I agree it's not much difference, but at least you will know ^^ See below for Koll's 2011 comparisons ... Hope it helps, Yum Edited by user 10 May 2012 07:42:25(UTC) \| Reason: Bad German ;) Yumgui attached the following image(s):
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petestra		#9 Posted : 09 May 2012 23:58:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,824 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Hi Yum, yes here are some photos of my 3091.1. The box is dated 03 72. I probably bought it later that same year, new. Peter
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TrainIride		#10 Posted : 13 May 2012 21:36:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,916 Location: FRANCE		Originally Posted by: Yumgui Joël, While I own several BR18s, I don"t have either of these great looking locos but from Koll's 2011 (und mit meine sehr, sehr schlecte Deutsch ...^^) I see the following; 3091.1 : has a smoke generator and a road number shield on the boiler which is 5mm long ... 3091.10 : as you pointed out ... is the blue version with different road number ... 3093.1 : same as 3091.1 without smoke generator 3093.2 : road number shield on the boiler which is 8mm long ... 3093.3 : (not sure about this one) smooth cylinder with printed factory shield .. I think this is lower left in the pix ^^ ? I'd say ... first thing to check is the length of the road number shield on the boiler, if it's 5mm, and knowing you have a smoke generator, then your loco is probably a 3091 ! I agree it's not much difference, but at least you will know ^^ See below for Koll's 2011 comparisons ... Hope it helps, Yum Hi Yum, Thank you so much ! I've measured the "road number shield on the boiler" and you can see it on the pic after: the two vertical lines on the paper are spaced of 5mm, ...so the shield is a 8mm one ...so my Br18 is a 3093.2 You solved my question ! By the way I've downloaded the Schematics of the 3093 and saw the bended metal part above the front bulb. #29 "Federplatte". Looks like a smoke generator could be installed even if it was the no-smoke version . Still a bit strange ... Best regards Joël TrainIride attached the following image(s):
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TrainIride		#11 Posted : 13 May 2012 21:43:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,916 Location: FRANCE		Originally Posted by: petestra Hi Yum, yes here are some photos of my 3091.1. The box is dated 03 72. I probably bought it later that same year, new. Peter Hi Peter, Thank you so much for your pictures. I'm now sure of the number of my model. Best Regards Joël
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