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Ian555		#1 Posted : 05 August 2009 20:55:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi all Bought a 3084 loco off E-bay(from Portugal). Arrived this morning,tried it on my test track, runs very smoothly.Can any one help with the years this model was made(1982?..)
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Piggy		#2 Posted : 05 August 2009 21:14:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 590 Location: Sydney		Hi Ian, They start making it in 1974. I got one myself, if one of my favorits. I hope you will be as happy with yours, as I am with mine.
		Regards Kenneth CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout
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Davy		#3 Posted : 05 August 2009 21:17:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Yes from 1974 till 1996. http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Dt_Loks_D50.html. I have also this steamer. The modell I have is from the seventies. My 3084 has be upgraded with a 60901 and drives after that perfect.
		M-track with a CS2.
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Ian555		#4 Posted : 05 August 2009 22:25:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi Thanks for the information.Can you find out from the model or type of box etc the year it was made. Thanks for any help. Ian
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Piggy		#5 Posted : 05 August 2009 22:37:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 590 Location: Sydney		They first of them came in the old strong boxes, without the transparent foil. I guess only the first year or two.
		Regards Kenneth CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout
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H0		#6 Posted : 05 August 2009 22:42:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		If there is a serial number at the bottom, then you can tell the year from that (from color and first digit). The details had been posted here (will have to search it). The box should also have a production code.
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steventrain		#7 Posted : 06 August 2009 00:49:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I guess it is between 1972 and 1980.
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Ian555		#8 Posted : 06 August 2009 15:11:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi Could not find a serial no. on the loco. The box has the no's 60 177 Ya 08 89 sr on it. The instructions say it can be converted with a 7180 five star kit.It also mentions a convert to digitial using a c80 decoder. Can this help narrow down it's year of manufacture. Thanks again Ian
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Nigel Packer		#9 Posted : 06 August 2009 15:29:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 700 Location: Cheshire, UK		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ian555 <br />Hi Could not find a serial no. on the loco. The box has the no's 60 177 Ya 08 89 sr on it. Hi Ian, That means the box was printed in 1989 (08 89 is the month and year), so the loco is probably 1989 too, or possibly slightly later. From 1982, this loco has die-cast cross-heads (the sliding bit on the valve gear) as opposed to folded sheet-metal. Possibly, the chassis number label will be under the pony truck - you might be able to see it if you move the pony truck to the side, or else if you remove it. Hope this helps! Nigel
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Ian555		#10 Posted : 06 August 2009 15:59:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi Nigel You were right, the chassis no.is 00179320 Thanks for the help. Ian
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Nigel Packer		#11 Posted : 06 August 2009 16:08:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 700 Location: Cheshire, UK		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ian555 <br />You were right, the chassis no.is 00179320 So this loco was made in 1990! The first digit of the chassis number is the last digit of the year. Analogue locos do not have an initial letter designating decoder type. So I think that's a complete dating process! Best wishes, Nigel
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Ian555		#12 Posted : 06 August 2009 16:47:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi Nigel Hopefully this information will help when I find out what is required to convert Loco to digital.(eventually) Thanks again. Ian
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RayF		#13 Posted : 06 August 2009 17:05:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Ian, I converted mine very successfully with a 60760 kit. If you want a better decoder you can always replace the one in the kit with a lokpilot V3.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Piggy		#14 Posted : 06 August 2009 17:17:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 590 Location: Sydney		Exactly Ray. And you can use the hidden F3 if you have a smoke generator, look for 60760 and F3 in the digital section of this forum. I placed a thin PCB strip on top of spring to the smoke gerator, that way separating it from headlight. Later on I changed the decoder to a Loksound MFX, there plenty of space in the tender.
		Regards Kenneth CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout
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river6109		#15 Posted : 06 August 2009 18:20:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Here are some photos from the conversion: <font face="Times New Roman]The gearlight has been added, Smokegenerator has been seperated from the light source</font id="Times New Roman] <font face="Times New Roman]Here you can see the motor is upside down</font id="Times New Roman] <font face="Times New Roman]The 10 wheel rubbertyres was an addition before we had loadregulated decoders</font id="Times New Roman]
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Ian555		#16 Posted : 06 August 2009 20:52:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi all Thanks for the information on converting loco 3084 to digital. As you know I haven't started my layout yet(baseboard Oct/Nov.time) Will go over parts reqd. suppliers once I've got some track laid. Will keep in touch. Ian
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john black		#17 Posted : 07 August 2009 00:39:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109 <br /> 10 wheel rubbers - what clever solution, congratulations, John [:p][^] She must be one excellent puller ... * * * And congratulations on your new beauty, Ian
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RayF		#18 Posted : 07 August 2009 01:07:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Don't you get problems getting a good ground connection with tyres on all the drivers?
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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river6109		#19 Posted : 07 August 2009 01:54:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Don't you get problems getting a good ground connection with tyres on all the drivers? The ground connections are picked up from the front bogy and the tender 4 axles. Today it would'nt be necessary to do this. regards., John
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river6109		#20 Posted : 07 August 2009 01:56:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109 <br /> 10 wheel rubbers - what clever solution, congratulations, John [:p][^] She must be one excellent puller ... * * * And congratulations on your new beauty, Ian One could say it is a bit of an overkill but you're right she is an excellent puller. regards., John
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Ian555		#21 Posted : 07 August 2009 12:44:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi All Got a Loco 3047 on it's way in the post(E-bay).Says it's in Mint condition.Will start new topic with photo and info when it arrives. Ian
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steventrain		#22 Posted : 07 August 2009 13:47:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ian555 <br />Hi All Got a Loco 3047 on it's way in the post(E-bay).Says it's in Mint condition.Will start new topic with photo and info when it arrives. Ian Very good, It is a heavy loco with large motor. You may notice the black box in the cab.
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Nigel Packer		#23 Posted : 07 August 2009 16:00:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 700 Location: Cheshire, UK		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ian555 <br />Got a Loco 3047 on it's way in the post(E-bay).Says it's in Mint condition.Will start new topic with photo and info when it arrives. Ian Probably my favourite of all Märklin locos. My father bought me one new for Christmas in 1964, and I still have it today. At that time the technology seemed incredible (especially when compared to what British manufacturers were producing then). All metal loco, 2-10-0 with flanges on all wheels, articulated all-wheel gear drive, working lights, working smoke, Telex uncoupling, huge pulling power. What an amazing model! I love it! Best wishes, Nigel
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Ian555		#24 Posted : 07 August 2009 19:59:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,297 Location: Scotland		Hi Nigel I have a catalog from 1964 and it says the 3074 was brand new model in that year.If the postal strike doesn't upset things then should have it next week.Will let you know what condition the Loco is in. Thanks Ian
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