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Offline Armando  
#1 Posted : 01 August 2009 02:01:17(UTC)
Armando

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Has anyone been using the Märklin / Seuthe smoke fluid to effectively clean C-track?

Thanks,
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#2 Posted : 01 August 2009 02:07:37(UTC)
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I have- works well. A cheaper alternativeis the famous roco blocks though...
FS + SBB Era 2-5 and Vintage Marklin
Offline TomB  
#3 Posted : 01 August 2009 02:44:44(UTC)
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Hello Armando, I am using SR 24. 1 liter -> 11-16 EURO.

You find it when searching ebay:

http://modellbau.shop.ebay.de/i...;_odkw=&_osacat=9053

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Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 01 August 2009 07:11:15(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Armando
<br />Has anyone been using the Märklin / Seuthe smoke fluid to effectively clean C-track?

Thanks,

I'm a bit puzzled by the diverse use of smoke fluid.

on one hand it is used to grease cogwhgeels and other sticky moving parts and on the other hand it is used to clean tracks.
The oil component in the fluid would make tracks oily.
oil and rubber doesn't go together.
So what's going on here ?

John
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Offline xxup  
#5 Posted : 01 August 2009 07:25:56(UTC)
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It is also good for solving quizzes - Hey Juhan! [:I][:I][:I]
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Offline river6109  
#6 Posted : 01 August 2009 12:11:56(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup
<br />It is also good for solving quizzes - Hey Juhan! [:I][:I][:I]

Can you solve this issue aswellbiggrinbiggrin
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Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 01 August 2009 12:38:18(UTC)
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I use chemical gasolin to cleaning tracks.
It´s the best way you can do it...!
But be carefully!!!
Don´t have power connecting on at the track,when you are cleaning with chemicals gasolin!!!

H0
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Offline xxup  
#8 Posted : 01 August 2009 12:53:43(UTC)
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I use lighter fluid (no matches).. I am not sure that smoke oil is a good thing to use, but I respect the opinion of others who have verified that it works great...
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 01 August 2009 13:07:03(UTC)
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I've used a bit of Tamiya Acrylic thinner on a rag to clean rails. Seems to work OK, and doesn't leave any residue. Makes a smell though.
Offline Davy  
#10 Posted : 01 August 2009 15:00:53(UTC)
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I also use this SR24 fluid. Works fine.

My dealer told me this is much cheaper and almost the same fluid Marklin and Seuthe use.

M-track with a CS2.
Offline davemr  
#11 Posted : 01 August 2009 19:33:19(UTC)
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Roco rubber. Lasts for ages and very fast. Leaves tracks clean.
davemr
Offline Armando  
#12 Posted : 01 August 2009 20:19:14(UTC)
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Hi Tom and Dave,
What's the catalog number of that Roco rubber block? And how do you use it on turnouts and crossings?
Thanks!
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline davemr  
#13 Posted : 01 August 2009 22:39:23(UTC)
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Hi Armando. Roco rubber is 10002. Just rub it over track and turnouts etc and then if you have a small vaccum which you would use for dust anyway take it over the track. Mainly only one small part of track can cause a problem and a quick rub will solve. I have had my present rubber for about three years and the layout runs without problems. Saves using oils and lighter fluid etc and takes half the time.

dave
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Offline Armando  
#14 Posted : 02 August 2009 02:46:49(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by davemr
<br />Hi Armando. Roco rubber is 10002. Just rub it over track and turnouts etc and then if you have a small vaccum which you would use for dust anyway take it over the track. Mainly only one small part of track can cause a problem and a quick rub will solve. I have had my present rubber for about three years and the layout runs without problems. Saves using oils and lighter fluid etc and takes half the time.

dave


Hi David,

Thanks for the info. Could you please also recommend a manufacturer of small vacuum cleaners, such that could be used on a layout? So far, I haven't been able to find a vacuum cleaner small enough to be hand-carried confortably and that comes with parts that would be useful to clean track surface.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Maxi  
#15 Posted : 02 August 2009 03:16:18(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Armando
<br />

Hi David,

Thanks for the info. Could you please also recommend a manufacturer of small vacuum cleaners, such that could be used on a layout? So far, I haven't been able to find a vacuum cleaner small enough to be hand-carried confortably and that comes with parts that would be useful to clean track surface.


This might steer you in the right direction. https://www.micromark.com/Search...&searchPhrase=vacuum

I have something very similar to the miniature vacuum kit and attach it to my portable Black & Decker vacuum cleaner. Works wonders for reaching in hard to get places.

Matthew
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#16 Posted : 02 August 2009 03:22:23(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Armando
<br />Hi Tom and Dave,
What's the catalog number of that Roco rubber block? And how do you use it on turnouts and crossings?
Thanks!


Peco also has a similar track cleaning rubber.
Offline pab  
#17 Posted : 02 August 2009 12:06:09(UTC)
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I use SR24 oil to clean the tracks. You can use it as smoke fluid as well, but I don't like the smell.
Offline davemr  
#18 Posted : 02 August 2009 17:18:05(UTC)
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I have a small Black & Decker vacuum which I use for the car and railway. It came with an extension part which can get under small tunnels.
Dust can be one of the main problems and using oil on top just makes it worse.
I think everybody has there own solution which works for them but I have always used a rubber and a quick run round the tracks once evey two weeks keeps it all running.
It is of course to keep trains running which in itself cleans the track.

dave
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Offline Maxi  
#19 Posted : 02 August 2009 17:29:25(UTC)
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Very true.
I am also amazed as to how much dust the LUX vacuum unit collects when running around the track. Every little bit of cleaning helps.

Matthew
Offline Armando  
#20 Posted : 10 August 2009 16:46:51(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by davemr
<br />I have a small Black & Decker vacuum which I use for the car and railway. It came with an extension part which can get under small tunnels.
dave


Hi Dave,Hi
Could you please indicate what Black & Decker vacuum you have? I've been searching for small, hand-held B&D vacuum cleaners, but I still haven't found one that comes with an extension part (hose/brush) that could be used for effectively vacuum-cleaning the track.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline davemr  
#21 Posted : 10 August 2009 19:17:16(UTC)
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Hi Its a B & D dustbuster 9.6v. I have had mine for about three years now so no doubt there will be another model available if they dont still make the one I have. Any small cleaner will do that you can use for the car etc. It is just a matter of running it over the track to pick up any debris left after using the rubber.
The extension is useful for tunnels but not required for the rest of the track. I dont know if the extensions are mentioned when buying it but were packed and fitted in the base unit which charges the machine.
davemr
Offline Armando  
#22 Posted : 12 August 2009 06:49:04(UTC)
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Back on this subject...
A dealer I know is totally reluctant to use the Märklin/Seuthe smoke fluiid. He, on the contrary, recommended two products: Goo Gone and Ronsonol Lighter Fluid. Has anyone used them? Is there a risk that these products might remove the Humbrol paint that I used on the C-track to weather it? Will they harm the plastic road bed on the C-track?
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Armando  
#23 Posted : 21 September 2009 19:09:59(UTC)
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Back on this subject again:

Does anyone have any hands-on experience using the TRIX Track Cleaner (# 66624) to clean C-track?
Best regards,
Armando García

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