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Oscar		#1 Posted : 17 December 2008 22:07:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I've not done much collecting lately and I was amazed at the going prices on Ebay today! I snagged up a mint condition 3039.1 E10 for 62! Auctions I did not bid on: a Belgian NOHAB went for 78 and an old 3027 for 83! And all were in good condition and with box.
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mmervine		#2 Posted : 17 December 2008 22:21:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Yes, I just won a Re460 for $92. I won a different one for $75 a few weeks ago!
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5HorizonsRR		#3 Posted : 18 December 2008 02:07:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		No doubt! I had a friend tell me the same thing as I stopped buying for some time due to insane costs. I have been a buying machine the past few weeks- picked up all sorts of stuff!!!
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Oscar		#4 Posted : 18 December 2008 08:44:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Those are awesome deals, guys.
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john black		#5 Posted : 18 December 2008 16:23:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR <br />I have been a buying machine the past few weeks - picked up all sorts of stuff!!! Coolness, John ... [:p][^]
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tekin65		#6 Posted : 18 December 2008 16:57:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Hmmmm, That explains how I could win a 3174 Nohab for $61. Do you guys reckon the prices will keep going down after Christmas? Cem.
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Oscar		#7 Posted : 18 December 2008 19:16:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: Originally posted by tekin65 Hmmmm, That explains how I could win a 3174 Nohab for $61. Do you guys reckon the prices will keep going down after Christmas? Cem. It's amazing that you can scoop up a Nohab in good condition for a price like that - that is an absolutely incredible deal. No idea if it will continue to drop - I've been out of the game for quite a while and have not seen this trend develop. Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:00:51(UTC)  | Reason: Removed the microscopic font size!
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Oscar		#8 Posted : 18 December 2008 19:29:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		The 3039 that I won is Ebay number 190273017346. Here are some photos of it: That thing is in immaculate condition. The last time I found a 3039 as neat as this one, it costed 110 euros on average. Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:01:16(UTC)  | Reason: Removed the microscopic font size!
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Oscar		#9 Posted : 18 December 2008 19:36:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		And how about this one, Ebay number 230313801356 which I was stupid enough NOT to bid on: Note that this lot contains a 4616 wagon with Mannesmann tube, with the original box. That model <u>alone</u> should fetch close to 100 euros. This whole lot, all four wagons together, sold for 38,27!!!!!! Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:01:35(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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5HorizonsRR		#10 Posted : 18 December 2008 19:43:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		I think at least part of it is do the the amount of stuff people are selling pre holiday; thinking its the best time of year to sell. While it is true in that there are plenty of xmas tree collectors looking, I don't think they make a difference unless you are selling track and start set type material. Anything else i just think floods the market. I've been buying a lot not only because of pricing, but because all of a sudden stuff you never see for sale (unless you have access to germany ebay) is popping up in the states. Random bits like 1980's era passenger cars they only made for a year, and things of the like. I picked up a few 4180 passenger cars, (been trying to make a train of them forever) a few more 4747 Elf Tank Cars, a 3477 Zeppelin and some cheap HAG cars...
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Oscar		#11 Posted : 18 December 2008 19:43:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I don't believe this.... A 4618 Tiefladewagen with the box, not the transformer. With original red box. Ebay number 110326054860. I just won it. For 5 euros and 47 cents..... Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:01:55(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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john black		#12 Posted : 18 December 2008 20:04:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Oscar <br />The 3039 I won ... is in immaculate condition. Congratulations, Oscar - she's a beauty, indeed [:p][:p][:p] That's what we call a marklin ... And here's a little gift, matching your classic lady
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Oscar		#13 Posted : 18 December 2008 20:34:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Thanx, John! Those exploded view drawings are awesome! Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 10:58:39(UTC)  | Reason: Removed the microscopic font size!
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Oscar		#14 Posted : 18 December 2008 21:51:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I'm on a roll here. Not one but two 4610's in mint condition, with box, for <u>3 euros each</u>. A 4605 for E10,06. I got these from the same seller, so that saves some shipping costs. Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:02:17(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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john black		#15 Posted : 18 December 2008 23:06:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Those cars are super bargains, Oscar - congratulations, again Still more, they look like brand new in the box ...
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stenscience		#16 Posted : 18 December 2008 23:24:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico		I too have been off the market for a while, but it looks like I need to get back in. I am a NOHAB freak, as you may know, and have most of the ones I was looking for, but at the prices mentioned, it's time to get some duplicates.Thanks for the heads-up guys.
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steventrain		#17 Posted : 18 December 2008 23:55:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		I have brought some of items on ebay for cheaper price! Box of 10 M-tracks straight track for £3 (4 euros). Three boxed of wagons 1960s for £10 (12 euros).
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john black		#18 Posted : 19 December 2008 01:28:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br />That explains how I could win a 3174 Nohab for $61 Well done, Cem ... fork over that picture
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Oscar		#19 Posted : 19 December 2008 12:39:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		The last one so far, I paid a bit more for this one but it is worth it: A 4515 Nierderbordwagen with two Mercedes trucks, in immaculate condition. That's pretty rare. KOLL says anywhere between 80 and 100 euros, I payed 32 euros. Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:03:24(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Oscar		#20 Posted : 19 December 2008 12:42:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I could shoot myself for not bidding on this one and that one. Those coaches are very old, very beautiful and they sold for next to nothing. Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:03:01(UTC)  | Reason: Removed the microscopic font size!
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Jeremy Palmer		#21 Posted : 19 December 2008 13:03:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		I was offered, from official M dealer, GT 2 X 4/4 37964, for US$500. Declined as I would like 37962. To be fair it was partially as a result of some other purchases. I was delighted to get my snowy railbus for US$ 299.00, this also from an M dealer.
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Bigdaddynz		#22 Posted : 19 December 2008 13:26:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		I saw a brand new 1 Gauge V100 loco from a starter set sell this week for 212 USD. I think maybe I should have bid on it, but I restrained myself. Of course the killer for us here is postage, and the declining NZD, although the USD has dropped a bit in the last few days.
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klinge-germany		#23 Posted : 19 December 2008 19:26:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 260 Location: Hamburg,		well, maybe another bubble has exploded....not so noisy as the explosion of many other bubbles around and the decrease began some years ago from now. i would say, second hand prices have moved into the right direction and maybe the number of collectors has gone down too and/or they are not more that 'hungry' as they have been 15 years from now. but in turn this will mean not so many sales to collectors in the future 'first hand' from maerklin to them, so their customer basis is further eroding... we will see
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Oscar		#24 Posted : 23 December 2008 13:44:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		For some bad reason I did not bid on this (the reason being I expected it to go quite high): Two Säurebehälterwagen, one Märklin, one Primex. The Märklin version (model number 4657) is quite rare and rather valuable. Yet this Ebay auction ended at a price of EUR 13,70..... Some lucky guy, somewhere bought these two for less than 14 euros.... Edited by moderator 19 March 2019 11:03:45(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Gramps		#25 Posted : 19 March 2019 05:51:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 7 Location: Waikato, Morrinsville		Please excuse my ignorance Gents, Apart from the obvious, what's the difference between a 4605 in a red box & a 4605 in an Std Marklin box?
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mvd71		#26 Posted : 19 March 2019 10:00:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		The blue one is a marklin item, the red one is from the budget "primex" range. Looks like it didn't get all the small detailing on it.
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Bigdaddynz		#27 Posted : 19 March 2019 10:03:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		The red box is a Primex box and presumably the wagon is also. Primex was a Marklin brand that sold cheaper versions of some Marklin items - generally they have less detail.
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RayF		#28 Posted : 19 March 2019 10:32:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: Gramps Please excuse my ignorance Gents, Apart from the obvious, what's the difference between a 4605 in a red box & a 4605 in an Std Marklin box? I can find no record of a 4605 made by Primex, so I am assuming the two previous replies haven't read your question properly. The 4605 is an SBB K3 covered wagon with a brake-man's cabin at one end. This wagon was in the Marklin range for many years, and over those years the style and colour of box varied, so I wouldn't say there is a "standard" Marklin box. There are some boxes that are mainly red or orange and some that are light blue, and the more recent ones in blue and white. The wagon itself was sometimes made in brown and sometimes in grey. I have the brown version and it came in a red box.
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mbarreto		#29 Posted : 19 March 2019 10:41:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Hello, About Märklin boxes you have an interesting page that is writen in German language, but you can easily get an idea when you scroll down. http://www.maerklinist.d...artons/frame-kartons.htm Regards Miguel
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Bigdaddynz		#30 Posted : 19 March 2019 10:56:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: RayF I have the brown version and it came in a red box. The box shown in Oscar's picture is a Primex box not a red Marklin one, which is what I thought Gramps was referring to. That's what happens when you resurrect an eleven year old thread and post a question in it that has no relation to the rest of the thread. The box has the number 4587 on it. https://www.lokmuseum.de/showart...gen&Seite=1&SID= There probably won't be any difference if any between a 4605 in a red box or a 4605 in a blue box, unless there were some minor variations. Kolls will tell you that information.
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river6109		#31 Posted : 20 March 2019 14:06:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,726 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I always hunt for good prices and it takes quite a bit of an effort to scroll through all items dealers sell., there is so much cheap stuff on ebay I could buy a lot of it. John
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RayF		#32 Posted : 20 March 2019 14:31:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I'm thinking maybe topics should get locked automatically if there have been no posts in a certain time frame, a year maybe? I also find it frustrating when old topics are resurrected. The information on them is usually very much out of date, and in some cases the posters in that thread may have left the forum, or even passed away. I see posts above from John Black and Jeremy Palmer, both ex-members I remember with fondness!
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