Marklin 37893 BR44 weathered edition on

http://www.maerklin.de/d...eraktionen/storelok.html

Delivery to six Marklin store in Germany only.

Goofy, as stated on previous post before, Marklin has a narrow mind in customers and don´t care much about customers outside Germany.

Just have a look at the potencial north american market... covered by different designs of the same BB and Alco´s...

Nice loco

Anybody know the price for the model

My advice- buy a 37883 cheap on ebay and break out the airbrush :)

Looks like it might go well with your Trix weathered BR44, Lutz.

As long as supply lasts.
It's "very limited" (they don't give exact figures).

I'm inclined to agree with you Goofy.[:(]

Rest of Germany too...! [xx(]

There is one thing i must understand:
How does "collector" reacts,when all strong limited locomtivs is sold out next day...?
Will they say:"sh-t!"
It must been so...

Very expensive...

Hi all,

First of all, I don't see why we should be so excited about either the item itself, or by the way it is distributed. In my view, this item is indeed a rather exclusive one, offered through only a few outlets, but it's nothing new. In the Netherlands, certain items (like the NS 1200 set 37123) are only offered through a couple of selected Märklin Stores and Shops. On a very small scale special Märklin models are offered by the dedicated Märklin Store in Utrecht (37658 (001 - 500) MaK Diesel "Strukton" in weathered version). Similar initiatives exist or existed elsewhere. For instance in Switzerland (soon again with the Crossrail 37346 set) and on a somewhat broader scale in Sweden, where a special non-cataloged loco set was offered a couple of years ago. (Green Cargo set, 37415) For over a decade, Märklin produced special items for Belgium and Luxemburg and I seem to recall a couple of snowed models (Glaskasten and Snow Blower with BR 86) particularly for the Austrian market as well.
What we can learn from those distributions, is firstly that the'll eventually pop up on eBay. For an illustration of that, search for 37415 on the German eBay website. Seek and ya'll find. So, apart from the fact that it's nothing new, neither with Märklin items nor other brands like for instance Brawa, it's still possible to obtain such items. The only thing that might be new is the fact that Märklin announced it on its German website, rather than the Dutch and Swiss website. Again, not too shocking a difference considering that the German website is obviously aimed at Germany, where this model is going to be sold...

Secondly, Märklin or its dealers have the simple right to mutually agree on bringing out a special model. This is both beneficial to Märklin and to the dealer. I'll explain, in the case of Kuijpers Hobbyhuis (the MaK Strukton mentioned above), this dealer committed himself to ordering 500 (!) models, that's way more than a dealer would usually order. Easy distribution for Märklin, special item for the dealer. In that case, the model used as a basis was still in excessive amounts in stock at Märklin, so Märklin weathered those as ordered by the dealer, issued a simple certificate and cleared the stock. Beneficial to Märklin again, and thus all adding to the survival of Märklin we're all hoping for.

Now back to this particular model; let's face it. The model is both expensive and nothing really new. If you're really craving for a - IMHO not too realistically - weathered BR 44, buy the Trix 22044. It's very easy to convert to Märklin, and one seller on the German eBay is offering it for about 150 Euros. Compared to the 479,95 Euro's the "original" weathered BR 44 "store loco", that's an insane bargain. (And yes, I know this weathered BR 44 has another running number and tender type, but hey, given the price advantage...)

I'm looking forward to a more structured discussion based on facts, rather than beheated arguments and battering and hope to have set some standard for such a discussion. Time to step of my soapbox again, have a nice day!

As said in my earlier post, I'm not impressed by the weathering. So I will not buy this locomotive.

And I fully support Sander's the soapbox action.

Anyhow, apart this specific stuff, IMHO Marklin seems not much interested on extra germany customers in these last years!

Pietro

Lutz,

There's something fishy about this.

Trix says it is a limited edition. So, why not? Is it because some fools have/had to buy the Märklin issue for Euro 459.- instead of Trix issue for Euro 159.-?

... and Trix version is not even perceived as a collectors item ... by who ... you? Where all those models are coming from? Who are weathering them? Different people? Cut us a slack, will you?

Cem.

Sander,

I had a thing against those "factory weathered" (horrible weathering that is) from the moment I saw them. It's just a hoax. On the other hand; what really makes the Märklin one so special, a piece of printed paper for a "certificate"? Who actually signs them to verify the authencity? Turn the Trix one over, peel off the sticker, and voila! you've got a Märklin suddenly - if so interested, one can colour copy the certificate!

This is just another way to rip brave and true Märklin fans off; if they're happy with this, I'm happy too, 'coz I'm not buying the 37893.

Cem.

Absolutely Tim, absolutely!

Maybe Märklin should get a "brave and true fan" forehead-stamp made to single them out

Cem.

P.S. save the last Trix for me

What i see all this,seems just only as smart marketing from Marklin by fooling against Marklin customer...?
Sense bad humor...?
Next time become another BR44 with another roadnumber...?
I remember for many years ago,when Marklin did created an BR52 in orange colour...!!! [xx(]
Didn´t Marklin also produced others models with certificate,that has not become sucess...?
Why should this model BR44 weathered do it now...?
Perhaps Marklin company will soon get in bankruptcy...?
So BR44 will reached high up in prices...?
Give me money...

Precisely, Dave..

Mind you, considering many "true and brave fans" as Cem have put it would buy this model - it may not be a bad strategy for Marklin to increase their revenue take. Investment and effort needed is minimal for a lok that cost almost twice the regular 44.

It will only be a flop if two years from now, many of these limited edition lok are still sitting lonely in the shelves.

Considering the price... not for the faint hearted!

Well you know what they say about a <s>fool</s> 'brave member and true fan' and his money....

At first I was under this impression to, however, the model discussed here has a different road number compared to all other models. Given that those road numbers on the BR 44 are part of the housing itself, rather than an additional part, it seems like it was a special production run, rather than a rebadging of existing stocks.

Hi Cem,

Perhaps I misunderstand your question, but given that the BR 44 was a standard series loco, different road numbers are very prototypical. Hence, both the weathered and the "stock 44" can (and do) have prototypical road numbers.

Hi Cem, me again...

Alright, you're in fact right. Slight differences exist within standard loco series, for instance in pumps, wheels (illustrated by the two different era III BR 64 versions made by Märklin, 39640 and 39645), lanterns and lettering.
When it comes to those details, I'm pretty sure that only a few Märklin models are completely correct in this respect and an inspection of pictures of originals would almost certainly uncover inconsistencies. Note that we would have to get numerous photographs of the originals as changes to the original locos were commonly made during their lifecycle. For instance during revisions.

In fact, I would only believe exclusive series producers like Weinert, Micro Metakit and such actually take care of those small deviations. All in all, we would have to conclude that building a model results in leaving out and simplifying reality, but that, would be a completely off-topic, but still interesting, topic.

So how many of us have rushed out and bought one?

Not sure about how many they are making but I will be having my BR 50
weathered as I did my start set BB. Could care less about value, that
is set by my enjoyment of the few "weathered" items I have. They have
my "ZERTIFICAT" of approval with the numbers 1/1 on it.

I guess I followed Lutz' advice "to go out and get it" to the letter.

Jeremy.

ps. Sander thank you for injecting some clarity to the issue.jp.

Hello David!!

Good to hear you and nooooo, not that brave!! The "croc issue" has
been addressed by a factor of one, so one still available. I did send
you a note but it came back undeliverable and I forgot to follow up.
My apologies[B)][B)]. So please let the club know, I would love them
to have an appreciative home. I am sure that Capt. B would agree that
Crocs and Gators should have a warm and loving enviroment.

Back to topic the idea for the BR 50 came from one of Frits' photos
in his Picture Book. To look through THAT at leisure is a dangerous
pursuit I tell you.

Many thanks,

Jeremy.